[uucdigest] Wednesday, October 1 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6789
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[uuc] Redline Diff Lube (was Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A) RE: [uuc] Re: E36 FAQs RE: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes RE: [uuc] Fan Delete Mod, anyone done this? Re: [uuc] EBC brake pads (was Source for Hawks) [uuc] Re: What to expect from 1995 525 with 95k miles [uuc] How to remove E30 control arm bushings? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 09:45:47 -0500 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Anyone use Sta-bil in the tank during winter storage? I should have added to my other post, when my daughter spent her junior year of college in Austria I kept her car. Lots of Sta-Bil, full tank of gas, tires aired up to 40psi or so, and I put a battery charger on it every month for a short time. I did roll it (manually) to a slightly different spot on the tires each month. When she came back the 10-11 month old gas burned just fine - no problems. Dennis M5 silver/black 330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd - now for sale! At 02:54 AM 10/01/2003 -0400, you wrote: >I just saw this stuff advertised on Speed, and I'm going to be putting the >car away for winter soon. I'm curious to see if other BMW folks use this >in the fuel tank when the car is stored for prolonged periods of time and >what they have to say about it. > >TIA, > >Mike Kozitka ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:29:32 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes KMS - Brett Anderson wrote: > We tried HT10's on Kathy's MCoupe. > > The rears are still good, primarily because we've hardly used them. The > fronts separated from the backing plates, with about 75% pad left. > > To me, that qualified them as JUNK. Expensive JUNK, but JUNK none the less. I wonder whether this was a case of a bad batch of pads. I never had any issues with mine on the 332 & I know Jack & Simon have been thru multiple sets (not quickly or anything, just that they use their brakes hard) without any issues I know of. I found the 10's to have a different initial feel than the Blues and don't brake hard enough to justify the additional cost and heat capacity of the 10's as compared to the Blues. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:33:45 -0700 From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes Well, mine held up pretty well and this racing at Laguna Seca. Jack and Simon have also had positive experience with these pads as well. You must have gotten a bad example. Bora On Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003, at 22:52 US/Pacific, KMS - Brett Anderson wrote: > We tried HT10's on Kathy's MCoupe. > > The rears are still good, primarily because we've hardly used them. > The > fronts separated from the backing plates, with about 75% pad left. > > To me, that qualified them as JUNK. Expensive JUNK, but JUNK none the > less. > > Early next year we'll be testing every available pad for the > Mcoupe/E36 M3. > Perhaps we'll find one that works better than the Hawk Blue, which has > been > our baseline thus far. > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> On Behalf Of Bora Akyol (BMW) > >> I personally don't see why anyone would run anything other Hawk HT10s >> on the front and Blues in the rear of an E30 M3 on the track. >> As long as you watch the ducting of the brakes as in not having >> ducting >> fully open >> in cold temps, they work well. > ____________________________________ > 100% Spam Control by SpamEnder > Free Download and Trial > http://www.spamender.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:03:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Hawk pads was Lee's brake KMS - Brett Anderson wrote: >The fronts separated from the backing plates, with about 75% pad left. >To me, that qualified them as JUNK. Expensive JUNK, but JUNK none the >less. I've seen posts by James Clay on that problem, apparently that happened early on. Hawk has modified the backing plate so that doesn't happen anymore. I'm on my third set of HT-10s and haven't had too many issues, one set looked crackly on the surface but I've seen that happen to other pads as well (not exclusive to Hawks) other than that they been great. >Early next year we'll be testing every available pad for the Mcoupe/E36 >M3. Perhaps we'll find one that works better than the Hawk Blue, which >has been our baseline thus far. Good idea, yeah people have such different braking techniques and that to me dictates your personal preference in pads. The HT-10s could be too grabby and hard to modulate for some (especially if you don't have ABS) but I like them because I stomp on the pedal and let the tires and ABS do their thing, if I drove a different car I'd probably run a different pad and change my braking technique. The Hawk blue seems to be a popular choice for racers but every once in a while you'll find the whiny one that complains about rust on this or that because they have no clue on what temps these pads should operate at, or to not use them on the street. Some consider that enough to call them junk and never try them again. Personally I like autoxing on race pads even, the bite once they're warmed up is awesome. I have to do a couple of silly things to get them up to temp before my first run but they work great after that. :-) Carlos 91 M3 will have HT-10s and Blues all weekend at Grattan and also for Sunday's SCCA autox 88 iS __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:24:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] EBC brake pads (was Source for Hawks) Rob Levinson >Overall, workable for the street and light >track use, but not the first choice for a track you know well. >That is, assuming you use the brakes.. ;-) That would be a good company slogan. EBC pads... great for those that don't need their brakes! Carlos. :-) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:33:28 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Fan Delete Mod, anyone done this? I've been thinking about the Belt Driven Fan Delete Modification on my 2.5L Single VANOS M50 engine. I live in MD and don't get stuck in to much bumper to bumper. Has anyone done this mod? Comments? Phil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:58:47 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Redline Diff Lube (was Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A) Lee, here's more insight from Redline Lubricants VP Roy Howell. I mentioned that my mechanic had used 75W90NS because it would allow the limited slip clutches to lock up quicker, but that I didn't like the noise. I also mentioned that some people experiment with various amounts of friction modifier until they find just the right amount to quiet the clutches, but no more. I'm not interested in doing the experimentation, so I asked if I could just mix the 75W90 with the 75W90NS in a 50/50 ratio. Roy said: 1. This is pretty common. 2. The 75W90 contains 5% friction modifier. 3. New limited slip diffs need that much modifier to help the clutches break in properly. 4. After they're broken in, you don't need nearly as much friction modifier. So when I plop the 4.10:1 LSD in my car in a few weeks, I'm going to use the 50/50 mix. BTW, check your post again, I think you'll find you got the Redline products backwards. HTH, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA 1990 325i w/ noisy diff, and not just from the clutches 1991 325iA stock, no issues worth mentioning >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:26:51 -0400 >From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] Front end noise fixed & successful panoz track days at Road A > <snip> > >Well, that changed too. It seems my car doesn't like the Redline 75w90NS as >it started making a grumbling sound at parking lot kinda turns. Going back >to the regular Redline w/out the LS modifiers should resolve this. <snip> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:50:21 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: E36 FAQs > Damn web mail interface... > > Many apologies. It's Ron Stygar, not Rod (I should know that by now). > > http://www.unofficialbmw.com/bmw_e36.html Actually, Dale Beuning runs the Unofficial BMW web site. Ron Stygar is a featured author. Both sites/pages are highly recommended. Jim Bassett - Chief nitpicker :-) 3-time E36 owner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:54:23 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes Hey, at least those pesky Metal masters are gone! I think the key was that I was silly not to run the ducts to the cooling backing plates, especially since I have them anyway. This would've extended the pad life. Oh yea, and I already was WAAAAAAAY outbraking the "faster" cars. I did well except for that silly long back straight. If I get those boys on a smaller track like Roebling or CMP, they're toast! They just don't have a clinically insane operator......Walls, what walls? First timer at Road A? Naw, it's the pedal on the right. I'm still not near as competent as Mike L, but I drove the course on his tips. Lee 88 M3->need to dig out the half-done factory pagids so I can at least stop on the street > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes > > > Ben wrote about Lee writin'... > >> 88 M3->backing plates & rotors don't play nice together....... > >what's the story here? > > Lee didn't you say "Who needs race pads!?" Apparently you do. If you > had real pads in that car you probably wouldn't have gone through 1/5 > of the material AND you would've been way outbraking the faster cars. > > Oh well... > > Carlos > 91 M3 w/Hawks > 88 iS > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:24:41 -0500 From: "Steve Kneuper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Fan Delete Mod, anyone done this? I'm considering pulling the fan / clutch from my 99 e46 2.5l engine ... so to diagnose a noise at 1600 rpms when engine under load! As I shift thru 1-2 or 2-3, I get a noise like the fan is rubbing on something. Anyone else seen this problem before I start! - --steve kneuper austin texas > -----Original Message----- > > I've been thinking about the Belt Driven Fan Delete Modification > on my 2.5L > Single VANOS M50 engine. I live in MD and don't get stuck in to much > bumper to bumper. > > Has anyone done this mod? Comments? > > > Phil > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:38:48 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] EBC brake pads (was Source for Hawks) Sure, thanks a bunch Carlos... I try to be diplomatic about the whole thing, and KA-BOOM! You go and point out the obvious. Sheesh! ;-) - - Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [uuc] EBC brake pads (was Source for Hawks) > Rob Levinson > >Overall, workable for the street and light > >track use, but not the first choice for a track you know well. > >That is, assuming you use the brakes.. ;-) > > That would be a good company slogan. EBC pads... great for those that > don't need their brakes! > > Carlos. :-) > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 13:52:21 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: What to expect from 1995 525 with 95k miles on 9/30/03 11:28 PM, "JSN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - - rear pitman arms worn, will cause trammeling Or, rather more likely, "tramlining." Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 15:37:24 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] How to remove E30 control arm bushings? I rented one of those tripod-like pullers from Autozone, but it doesn't seem to be doing the job of removing the bushings from the control arms. I've already removed the bolts that hold the mounting brackets to the underbody. Is there a preferred technique for getting these bushings off, and is it difficult to mount the new ones to the existing control arms? The Bentley manual mentions a special lubricant from BMW, but is that all I need to get the new ones on? Thanks to all who replied to my Sta-bil question. Mike Kozitka ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6789 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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