[uucdigest] Wednesday, October 1 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6788
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[none] [uuc] Re: E36 FAQs Re: [uuc] Anyone use Sta-bil in the tank during winter storage? Re: [uuc] Anyone use Sta-bil in the tank during winter storage? [uuc] Re: Front air dam '96 840i ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:05:05 -0700 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 FAQs/Inspection Points? Appologies if this is redundant, but attempts to send from work bounced. Can anyone steer me to a list of FAQs or pre-purchase inspection points for an E36 325i? A friend of a co-worker is considering one. And if you have one for sale in the S.F. Bay Area, please let me know. Thanks, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:06:12 -0700 From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes I personally don't see why anyone would run anything other Hawk HT10s on the front and Blues in the rear of an E30 M3 on the track. As long as you watch the ducting of the brakes as in not having ducting fully open in cold temps, they work well. Bora 89 M3 JP #236 (now with Brembo 13 inch rotors :-) On Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003, at 19:44 US/Pacific, Carlos Lopez wrote: > Ben wrote about Lee writin'... >>> 88 M3->backing plates & rotors don't play nice together....... >> what's the story here? > > Lee didn't you say "Who needs race pads!?" Apparently you do. If you > had real pads in that car you probably wouldn't have gone through 1/5 > of the material AND you would've been way outbraking the faster cars. > > Oh well... > > Carlos > 91 M3 w/Hawks > 88 iS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:23:26 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 10:06 PM, Bora Akyol (BMW) wrote: > I personally don't see why anyone would run anything other Hawk HT10s > on the front and Blues in the rear of an E30 M3 on the track. Personally, I really really dislike the HT-10's. The response curve is very non-linear. I like the Blues much better, although I'm thinking of trying the HT-14's next (supposed to be like the 10's, but with more initial bite). - - Mark E36 325is, JP/A5 #117 - ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 01:52:58 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes We tried HT10's on Kathy's MCoupe. The rears are still good, primarily because we've hardly used them. The fronts separated from the backing plates, with about 75% pad left. To me, that qualified them as JUNK. Expensive JUNK, but JUNK none the less. Early next year we'll be testing every available pad for the Mcoupe/E36 M3. Perhaps we'll find one that works better than the Hawk Blue, which has been our baseline thus far. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > On Behalf Of Bora Akyol (BMW) > I personally don't see why anyone would run anything other Hawk HT10s > on the front and Blues in the rear of an E30 M3 on the track. > As long as you watch the ducting of the brakes as in not having ducting > fully open > in cold temps, they work well. ____________________________________ 100% Spam Control by SpamEnder Free Download and Trial http://www.spamender.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:23:32 -0700 From: marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lee's brakes Hmmmm. I've just switched to the HT-10s. One weekends worth of races. I haven't had a chance to check closely, but I will now. They are pricey. Marco KMS - Brett Anderson wrote: > We tried HT10's on Kathy's MCoupe. > > The rears are still good, primarily because we've hardly used them. The > fronts separated from the backing plates, with about 75% pad left. > > To me, that qualified them as JUNK. Expensive JUNK, but JUNK none the less. > > Early next year we'll be testing every available pad for the Mcoupe/E36 M3. > Perhaps we'll find one that works better than the Hawk Blue, which has been > our baseline thus far. > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>On Behalf Of Bora Akyol (BMW) > > >>I personally don't see why anyone would run anything other Hawk HT10s >>on the front and Blues in the rear of an E30 M3 on the track. >>As long as you watch the ducting of the brakes as in not having ducting >>fully open >>in cold temps, they work well. > > ____________________________________ > 100% Spam Control by SpamEnder > Free Download and Trial > http://www.spamender.com/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 02:54:38 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Anyone use Sta-bil in the tank during winter storage? I just saw this stuff advertised on Speed, and I'm going to be putting the car away for winter soon. I'm curious to see if other BMW folks use this in the fuel tank when the car is stored for prolonged periods of time and what they have to say about it. TIA, Mike Kozitka ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 08:33:38 -0400 From: "Mel Abrahams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Subject: Re: [uuc] Source for Hawk HPS pads - Toronto Area? You may want to contact KVR Performance in Toronto-they carry Hawk pads and also their own KVR race pads. _________________________________________________________________ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 08:36:33 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 FAQs/Inspection Points? Hmmm..325i Not sure about FAQs. I'd look to Rod Stygar's unofficial E36 page. Inspection points will depend on the car's age. - - Radiators are good for 50-60k - - Check the thermostat cover and see if it's been upgraded to metal from plastic. - - Check whether the water pump has been replaced. Another 60k or so part - - Ball joints are can get mushy starting at about 60-80k. I got about 100 out of mine before I needed to replace them. - - Trailing arm bushings 60-90k - - Rear shock mounts can go ~60k - - A lot of people in the Ms complain about wheel bearings, esp if the car is tracked. I've gotten 200k out of mine, incl about 70 track days (Yes, I'll do them this winter). YMMV. typically a 60-120k part. - - Vanos can get a little noisy, though there are also chain tensioners in about the same spot that can need replacing at about 90k (?). - - Motor and tranny are pretty solid. My synchros are starting to whine a bit, though I suppose they've served me fairly well. - - Driver's side Window regulators tend to go. Think my car's been through 3 of them. I'm told that luricating the window tracks will help alleviate this problem. - - I lost my cam sensor at about 130, though that was more of a sudden loss problem. Don't think it would come out in an inspection. - - There's a heat shield just aft(?) of the cat around the B Pipe that comes loose and just rattles, since it's loosely wrapped around the pipe. - - Brake pads wear out pretty fast on the track - - R compound tires will only be good for a couple thousand miles, tops... Marc Plante E36 325i, 214k Vienna, VA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 08:05:38 -0500 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Anyone use Sta-bil in the tank during winter storage? I have used it for years. I put it in the tanks of the lawn mower and the old pickup truck (that gets driven rarely). I do this all year long - since it takes us months to go through a can of gas mowing the yard - or a tank of gas in the truck. For the motorcycles and the convertible once the weather starts turning cooler I add it to the tanks. You never know when it will turn too cold to ride for a while. I don't wait until I am ready to park them, just start adding it once the riding drops from every few days. I also keep the tanks full - less air = less moisture. The stuff works great! My mower will start on 1st or 2nd pull after sitting for months. Ditto the motorcycles and truck (though they are electric start). I learned my lesson on running Sta-bil in the mower during the year. I would get a 5 gal can full at the start of season and use it all summer. I ended up having to have the carb rebuilt due to rust and other build-up from using stale/watered down gas. So rather than wait until put up time I just put it right in the can when I buy gas. The Sta-Bil bottles used to show two mixtures - one for storage (stronger) and one for all the time use. Now they just show one mix ratio. I buy the large bottle at Wally World or someplace I see it on sale. Dennis M5 silver/black 330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd - now for sale! At 02:54 AM 10/01/2003 -0400, you wrote: >I just saw this stuff advertised on Speed, and I'm going to be putting the >car away for winter soon. I'm curious to see if other BMW folks use this >in the fuel tank when the car is stored for prolonged periods of time and >what they have to say about it. > >TIA, > >Mike Kozitka ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 09:11:00 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [none] http://www.unofficialbmw.com/bmw_e36.html Marc Plante [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 09:12:06 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: E36 FAQs Damn web mail interface... Many apologies. It's Ron Stygar, not Rod (I should know that by now). http://www.unofficialbmw.com/bmw_e36.html Marc Plante E36 325i, 214k Vienna, VA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 06:14:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Anyone use Sta-bil in the tank during winter storage? I always use it when storing any engine. I add it, then run the car/lawn mower/weed wacker for a few minutes to make sure the product is through the fuel lines. I have never in 10 years not had an engine start and run well. Fuel breaks down relatively quick. Jason - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just saw this stuff advertised on Speed, and I'm > going to be putting the car away for winter soon. > I'm curious to see if other BMW folks use this in > the fuel tank when the car is stored for prolonged > periods of time and what they have to say about it. > > TIA, > > Mike Kozitka ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 06:48:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Anyone use Sta-bil in the tank during winter storage? Not much more to add, other than that I used it through a very cold, long NH winter in my 195k mile '94 325is, and it too started and ran perfectly when I untombed it in April. I would run it for 20-30 minutes every 4-6 weeks or so. Not sure how people feel about the periodic running, other than making sure you get it up to temp. However, I had not disconnected my battery, so I thought letting it run for a while would be a good idea. Hope this helps, Neil - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just saw this stuff advertised on Speed, and I'm > going to be putting the car away for winter soon. > I'm curious to see if other BMW folks use this in > the fuel tank when the car is stored for prolonged > periods of time and what they have to say about it. > > TIA, > > Mike Kozitka __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 07:44:03 -0700 From: "T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Front air dam '96 840i Andrew, No direct experience with 840i dams, but just recently replaced the dam on Sally's '89 325i. If comparable it's easier than washing the car and makes a similar improvement. I used about a 3/16" bit to drill out the posts on the old plastic clips, started the lip from the center and worked to the ends, though I don't know if that was important. Lip, clips, and shipping ran under $65 from: WWW.EAP4PARTS.com, 1-800-824-8814. Made big points on the home front, made me happy. Good luck, Tom Walrod Ps: the plastic is somewhat forgiving, but you made need to tweak the metal a bit with some duckbill pliers or something depending on how much cement curbing it's been parked on. A friend of a friend has asked me if I will install a new lower front air dam on his 840i. I have not seen the car yet, but was told the part that needs to be replaced is the black plastic lower air dam (this one has been eaten up by parking lot cement curbs). Does anybody out there have experience with the 8 series that can tell me how difficult or easy this job will be? Also, he is ready to spend $1200 on a new piece, I know the 8 series can be spendy to repair but there has got to be a better source for these - yes? Any suggestions? I have not checked the usual recyclers yet, but fully intend to. TIA. Andrew Harkonen '89 535i ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6788 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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