[uucdigest]         Thursday, October 2 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6791



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       re:  Subject: [uuc] How to remove E30 control arm bushings? 
       [uuc] engine mounts
       RE: [uuc] EBC brake pads (was Source for Hawk HPS pads - Toronto Area?)
       RE: [uuc] Fan Delete Mod, anyone done this?
       RE: [uuc] Fan Delete Mod, anyone done this?
       RE: [uuc] EBC brake pads (was Source for Hawk HPS pads - Toronto Area?)
       [uuc] <Misc>RE: Faster Back Roads in NJ?  Deer
       [uuc] Re: <Misc>RE: Faster Back Roads in NJ?  Deer
       Re: [uuc] Re: <Misc>RE: Faster Back Roads in NJ?  Deer
       [uuc] German engines

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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:05:42 -0700
From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: re:  Subject: [uuc] How to remove E30 control arm bushings? 

re:  Subject: [uuc] How to remove E30 control arm bushings?

     There is a standard tool called an "Alternator Pulley Puller" that 
does the trick nicely.
Place the shaft of the puller in the center of the end of the round 
section of the control arm.
Position the hooks over the bushing holder.
Tightening the puller with steady pressure will now extract the bushing 
up off the arm.
     The subject of pressing new bushings onto the arm is an old thread 
that is too inflammatory
to reignite.  Many of us have have come up with favorite private methods.
Freezing the bushing and using the factory 'soapy water' lubricant will 
work.
Good Luck,

'jk

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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:22:05 -0500 (Central Standard Time)
From: "David DeBord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] engine mounts

I have a 95 M3 with Dinan blower. I just replaced the broken Powerdyne with
a new Vortech.  I autox but no racing. I replaced a passenger side engine
mount with OEM, about 2 months ago. Now it is failing again. Is this
reasonable? What can I do to stengthen the mounts? Is my only alternative to
go with the Gruppe N mounts? Anyone got some for cheap? How hard is it to
change them myself?
thanks
d 

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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 03:58:51 +0000
From: "Evan A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] EBC brake pads (was Source for Hawk HPS pads - Toronto Area?)

Rob,

Be assured, I use the brakes; almost every time I stop.  ;^)  The "YMMV" 
means just that.  My car, the track I was on, and my braking technique are 
all very different from yours.  Buttonwillow is easy on brakes; my braking 
technique there (late-braking for short periods, maximizing the cool-off 
time) is also easy on them.  In addition, I have a lower top speed than many 
of the cars in the B Group, translating to less energy to dissipate at the 
end of Buttonwillow's longest straight.  If I'm not passing another car, the 
wimp in me only gets the car up to about 100 on that section.  On tracks 
with higher speeds, and/or downhill braking sections (e.g., Laguna Seca), 
the greens would definitely be toast.

You obviously need different pads than I.  It would not be cost-effective 
for me to buy more stopping power than I need, just as it would be foolish 
for you to buy less than what you need.  If and when I get to the point 
where I need more stopping power, I'll get more.  For now, I'm happy with 
the greens.  Your negative experience doesn't change my positive one.

I'm curious, which of your cars are you refering to where the greens were 
unsuitable?  And what do you consider "much lighter weight"?

YMMV,
Evan

- - ---- Original Message ----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] EBC brake pads (was Source for Hawk HPS pads -
Toronto Area?)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 03:44:49 +0000

>is was wasked:
>
>>Has ANYONE ever had a good experience with a set of EBC brake pads?
>I've
>>never heard a positive review of any of them.
>>
>
>I've had them front and rear on my E46 323i for a while, with two
>track days on the fronts. Other than cooking the green paint off the 
>fronts, and
>a slight squeal under light braking, I have no complaints. No fading at
>the track (B group at Buttonwillow last year) and no dust on the street.
>
>YMMV,
>Evan

With all due respect, are you actually using the brakes at all?

I have found the Greens to be unsuitable even for street use.
Apparently these pads are formulated for much lighter cars.  An
experience I apparently share with many others is the actual melting
of the pad onto the rotor.  We're not talking the end of the back
straight at RA here, we're talking regular street use.

I did have a decent experience with the Reds.  For a street pad, they
held up for my early laps at VIR... but as I got quicker, the pads
started to call it quits.  Overall, workable for the street and light
track use, but not the first choice for a track you know well.

That is, assuming you use the brakes..  ;-)

- - - Rob

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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 04:14:25 +0000
From: "Evan A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Fan Delete Mod, anyone done this?

My 5-speed '99 E46 323i doesn't have a engine-driven fan/clutch.  Were those 
only on cars with the auto trans?  You should be able to remove it long 
enough to determine if it's the source of the noise.  Also, if it's rubbing 
on something there should be wear marks somewhere on the shroud.

Evan

- -- original message --

I'm considering pulling the fan / clutch from my 99 e46 2.5l engine ... so
to diagnose a noise at 1600 rpms when engine under load!  As I shift thru
1-2 or 2-3, I get a noise like the fan is rubbing on something.  Anyone else
seen this problem before I start!

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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:45:55 -0500
From: "Steve Kneuper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Fan Delete Mod, anyone done this?

My 5-speed '99 E46 323i is, I guess, early production.  10/98 on the door
sticker.  Bought used by me.  Sure 'nuff, has a belt driven viscous clutch
16 blade (give or take a few blades) plastic fan.  The Bentley says it
should be electric, like Evan's below, but mine isn't.  I'll assume the
previous owner didn't swap in a five speed...

Fan blades looks great, haven't been hitting anything.  Lots of clearance
around the shroud, about 3/4 inch.  I'm not sure what the noise from
1600-1700 when shifting 1-2 or 2-3 is ... and I guess I'll wait to see if it
gets worse.

- --steve in austin texas

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Subject: RE: [uuc] Fan Delete Mod, anyone done this?
>
>
> My 5-speed '99 E46 323i doesn't have a engine-driven fan/clutch.
> Were those
> only on cars with the auto trans?  You should be able to remove it long
> enough to determine if it's the source of the noise.  Also, if
> it's rubbing
> on something there should be wear marks somewhere on the shroud.
>
> Evan
>
> -- original message --
>
> I'm considering pulling the fan / clutch from my 99 e46 2.5l engine ... so
> to diagnose a noise at 1600 rpms when engine under load!  As I shift thru
> 1-2 or 2-3, I get a noise like the fan is rubbing on something.
> Anyone else
> seen this problem before I start!

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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:43:47 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] EBC brake pads (was Source for Hawk HPS pads - Toronto Area?)

- ---- Original Message ----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] EBC brake pads (was Source for Hawk HPS pads -
Toronto Area?)

>  Your negative experience doesn't change my positive one.

I would not call it a "negative experience".  Call it a "learning
experience".  Any product, and specifically a brake pad, has
characteristics that make it suitable for specific tasks and not
suitable for others. 

I found the Greens are quiet, low-dust, and affordable - and
specifically suited to very mild duty.  Maybe we have faster
backroads here in NJ, but the braking (which is not terribly
different than Button Willow, come to think of it!) falls into what I
would call the "enthusiastic street driving" range on the roads I
frequent.  

If I had been using them just like a "regular driver" kind of pad,
then I am certain my experience would have been positive.

(Ouch, I think I just pulled my diplomacy muscle!)

>I'm curious, which of your cars are you refering to where the greens
>were unsuitable? 

E36 and E34.  We also experimented with them in our big brake kits
with disastrous results.  Note that I am specifically not saying we
tortured them in the BBK, just used the brakes normally.  That they
were in the BBK is inconsequential, as the pad size was larger than
OE and the usage was not extreme.

But by the same token, the Reds installed in the OE E38 750 brakes
(which means the rotor size and pad size is roughly comparable to our
smaller big brake kit for the 3-series) held up decently as I
outlined earlier.  They felt fine for street use and I daresay would
hold up for heavy-braking track use in a 3-series when used in a BBK.


> And what do you consider "much lighter weight"?

Small Honda-ish.  Somewhere around 3000lbs and under... _not_ a
lightweight racecar, I mean a teensy and not-fast road car.

I have spoken with the nice people at EBC a few times, and our mutual
conclusion was that the Reds should be the entry-point (lowest temp
range) pad used in the BBK.  We don't use them, a decision made by
customer expectations of brand and performance of pads supplied.

These days I have become partial to some ceramic compounds for street
use, and have been experimenting with a variety of different
formulations.  The ceramic-type pads are an example of technology
really working - they last a really long time, barely dust, don't
squeal, and seem happy at temps that make other pads do bad things.

- - Rob

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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 09:12:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] <Misc>RE: Faster Back Roads in NJ?  Deer

Rob (Others in deer country):

Watch out for deer on those fast, NJ back roads.  Every member of my family has had an 
incident
(Princeton NJ area).  They're also getting a little more mobile this time of year.  
I've been seeing
a lot more by the side of the road on my commutes over the last few weeks.  



  

Marc Plante
E36 325i, 214k
Vienna, VA

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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:39:10 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: <Misc>RE: Faster Back Roads in NJ?  Deer

No worries.  Around here we have "racing deer".

True story - about five years or more ago, I was in the 535i Turbo I had back
then.  Just entered the "staging area" of one of these great backroads section
and started to get up to speed.  Out of the corner of my eye, I see some
movement.  I look through the passenger window, straight into the eyes of a
good-sized young buck.  He was turning to match my direction and "gunned it"
just as I did.  Damned if that deer didn't keep up with me for what felt like
ten minutes - which is about 2 seconds in "oh-sh*t!" time.

If I had been in the passenger seat with the window open, I could have slapped
him on the side.

We also have "racing birds", but that's only with motorcycles.  Another time for
that story, which requires some pantomime to tell correctly.

- - Rob

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:12 AM
Subject: <Misc>RE: Faster Back Roads in NJ? Deer


> Rob (Others in deer country):
>
> Watch out for deer on those fast, NJ back roads.  Every member of my family
has had an incident
> (Princeton NJ area).  They're also getting a little more mobile this time of
year.  I've been seeing
> a lot more by the side of the road on my commutes over the last few weeks.
>
> Marc Plante
> E36 325i, 214k
> Vienna, VA

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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 06:58:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vic Maslanka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: <Misc>RE: Faster Back Roads in NJ?  Deer

So when are you going to develop the UUC titanium/carbon fiber
aerodynamic racing deer repellent whistles, especially designed for
mounting on M bumpers?

Vic Maslanka

P.S.  There'd be a lot less deer in Princeton if they let the hunters
in.  "OH, NO, don't shoot Bambi!!!"

- --- Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No worries.  Around here we have "racing deer".


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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 07:00:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] German engines

Here's the deal.

I need to replace the engine in my 'grey market' 1987
325i. I found a place which has just imported a bunch
of 1987-90 325i engines from Germany. My question to
you experts is; is there any reason I should consider
a specificly German engine? Is there any internal
difference in these and the American version, I don't
hink so but I'm not sure. Would these engines be used
to leaded gas and cause a problem running unleaded?
Any other problems I might run into? Or should I just
buy a local American engine like I was going to?

John

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