As someone who also has worked in this field for the best part of a decade, and 
given the advice Alex has already provided appears extreme, I would suggest 
also seeking counsel from another specialist if TDF wishes to pursue this path, 
perhaps from SFLC.

S.

On 9 Jul 2011, at 22:26, Bernhard Dippold wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> just to keep your eye on one of the phrases Alex wrote, I remove most of this 
> mail:
> 
> Alexander Thurgood schrieb:
>> [...]
>> I make part of my living out of representing IP rights holders in legal
>> actions against those who do not respect those rights, but also
>> defending those who happen to be on receiving end when the boot is on
>> the other foot.
> 
> So I would take this position as an expert's view.
> 
> Perhaps it would be possible for Alex to attend the SC call when this topic 
> is discussed.
> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> It is a no-brainer : either ask in MS writing, consult an attorney for
>> each territory of interest (expensive no doubt, and possibly
>> unsatisfactory, with fairly heterogeneous answers), or just plain don't
>> use MS's stuff.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Bernhard
> 
> PS: If Microsoft considers the icons to close or minimize a window as 
> belonging to their product icons (they are icons of their product Windows 
> XP/Vista/7), it's hard to avoid them.
> 
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