Decidim allows to enrich spaces for participation through multiple
available components (surveys, proposals, follow-up of results, comments
and several more).
-> True; as - I think I said - no experience with all participation
tools.. Did try decidim quickly today. I personally find
https://try.decidim.org not utmost attractive visually (not judging the
functionality, capability's or scale ability) . Another part is a full
fetched participation environment really needed. Or is it rather
overblown functionality nobody actually gonna use. The number of active
commenting users isn't extremely large; and the number responding here
even lower. Even polls at https://planet.documentfoundation.org/
attract representative amount of users. I happy already with kind of
comment board showing depth (so responds too) and a moderation score
(the moderation can be done by anyone logged in at the site). Gray means
Off-topic / irrelevant; +3 Spotlight. In addition can a vote be added;
to support/unsupported. And maybe a poll functionality Are more options
actually needed? I'm would be quite happy with forum/ bulletin board
with decent comment functionality and possibly to support a comment
and/or prioritizing comments.
This e-mail message board is not my type of thing. Unstructured, hard
to go through. Bug tracker message system is already a lot better. And a
message board with comments (which easily show who is responding to what
and being able to filter based on votes and or moderation score) is
perfect already. The 'voting'/ supporting should be enough for non
fluent people, I think. And message board maybe even be translated too
by some automatic translation site. Quality is often quite acceptable.
Visa versa people could use a translation side to write their opinion in
native language, while being automatically translated to English with
some 'heading: automatic translation" and the source text below. That's
what I do if there is a posting of a bug in Spanish/French/German.
And it could environment could be used also on
blog.documentfoundation.org. As I'm talking about message board with
same functionality (except slightly improved comment system). So to
backend or the whole site could shared. Without bloating everything with
again a new environment for participation. Including maintaining
(security updates/ configuration)/ moderating etc. And all the comments
can also send as e-mail message to the e-mail archive if people like
nabble/mailings.
Op 18-7-2020 om 16:08 schreef Daniel Armando Rodriguez:
El 2020-07-17 15:35, Telesto escribió:
Please don't confuse "making voices heard", which is generally good,
with "offering them a vote", which is generally problematic if they
do not carry any responsibilities upon which their votes might rely
and especially if they are willing to vote for ideas they don't fully
understand on the basis only of personality or identity. Decisions
made in that way have bad outcomes.
+1 for the above
Sometimes I think, don't make it to to complex.
The intention is completely the opposite
As there number of people contributing to the discussion oversee able.
So maybe some kind of news article/news board of system; An
introduction article [Starting point] + comment system like this (not
sure how it's called);
https://tweakers.net/reviews/7694/last/android-11-kleine-verfijningen-zonder-zoete-verrassingen.html#reacties.
The starting point can be created by anybody registered. The response
and the voting makes it easier to keep track of important input
(read-up) and what people support or not. For tapping into the general
public I would prefer a a polling system. Some background story [XXX]
What do you think about Community Edition. Great Idea! Not so,
because.. [44 characters or maybe few more to keep it short]. If the
want to give more input they should go you can go to www..
Decidim allows to enrich spaces for participation through multiple
available components (surveys, proposals, follow-up of results,
comments and several more).
The ultimately decision should me made at the board. The community
tools intended to gather input (and should communicated this way).
As Sophi said, "this is not about offering to vote (which can be
disabled in Decidim) but about providing a support to a comment. It's
very different because that allows people not fluent in English to
give an educated opinion and partipate. It's easy when you're fluent
to express yourself, and it takes hours to one who is not, most of the
time he will abandon before."
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