On Feb 15, 2012 5:46 PM, "Sam Johnston" <
[email protected]> wrote:
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>  I also spent a few hours running through it with Krishnan today
following his post — he wanted us to basically go all open source (e.g.
skew towards the open crowd) or drop it altogether (e.g. skew towards the
closed crowd), neither of which is going to happen sfaict. At the end of
the day I think he agreed with the definition but worries about whether
we'll be able to get a critical mass (something I'm less worried about).

Let's use the current debate as an opportunity. I'm glad guys like Krishnan
are having this debate in public - we should respond in kind. I don't want
to let the open cloud debate die down - I want to strike while the iron is
hot.

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> Assuming we agree, I'd like to see the consensus decision making process
more clearly defined as following the IETF process — e.g. RFC 2418 Section
3.3.

What does this mean? I have no idea what the IETF process entails. Could
you spell it out a bit?

What I propose is that we announce a draft of the cert program, announce a
30 day comment period, and then go live after that period.

But I think It's useful, both from a marketing and community engagement
perspective, to announce something tomorrow.

We need to capture the current open cloud momentum, and were supposed to be
showing leadership in this area. To not have something soon just seems odd.

So... draft/beta release tomorrow?

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> Comments inline:
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> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Shanley Kane <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>
>> The Certification Committee is tasked with determining the process by
which given products or services are found to be compliant with the Open
Cloud Principles via community consensus, and how the process can be
healthfully and effectively managed.
>>
>> Following a brief workshop on Friday, Feb 3 2012 which Sam Johnston,
John Mark and myself attended, we decided to launch the certification
procedure at Cloud Connect Event (February 13-16) as several board members
will be attending and it will provide a great platform for community
evangelism.
>>
>> The Certification Committee has come up with a procedure based on
various Board and committee discussions as well as with the guidance of
similar organizations such as the Open Source Initiative. (Please review
their certification process here: http://www.opensource.org/approval)
>>
>> Please review the draft and provide any edits by end of day.
>>
>> The Certification Committee plans to post the certification procedure
and mailing list TOMORROW, THURSDAY FEB 16 and begin promoting it,
including but not limited to press briefings, etc. We may try to post a
press release early next week as well.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Shanley
>> ________________________
>>
>>
>> Open Cloud Initiative Certification Process for Cloud Computing Products
and Services
>>
>> The OCI certification process enables the cloud computing community to
apply the requirements for Open Cloud, as described in the Open Cloud
Principles document, to products and services via open and transparent
discussion. Through the review process, products and services can be
determined by the community to satisfy open cloud principles and thus
approved to use the Open Cloud Initiative certification mark.
>>
>> Guidelines:
>> Any member of the cloud computing community may submit a product or
service for review.
>> Any member of the cloud computing community may participate in the
community consensus process.
>> Evolution of the Open Cloud Principles themselves are subject to a
separate community consensus process.
>> Purpose of the Process:
>> Certify products and services as meeting existing community standards
for open cloud, as defined in the Open Cloud Principles document.
>> Provide a framework for the application of the Open Cloud Principles by
the community.
>> Promote adoption of the Open Cloud Principles via open and transparent
discourse and community processes.
>> Enable Open Cloud certification review of products and services to take
place in a timely fashion (no more than 90 days).
>>
>> Submitting a Product or Service for OCI Certification:
>> Familiarize yourself with the Open Cloud Principles and subscribe to the
Certification mailing list. [OK]
>> Complete and submit the template (below) to the Certification mailing
list. Submissions will be posted publicly on the OCI list archive. [OK]
>> The community is invited to discuss the submitted product or service on
the Certification mailing list. Discussion will be open for at least 30
days and will not exceed 60 days. [OK]
>> The Certification Committee will review community discussion and create
a summary and recommendation, submitted to the OCI Board and the
Certification mailing list. [OK]
>> The OCI Board will consider the product or service at the next monthly
meeting of the board. The board may request additional information from the
community before proceeding. If no additional information is required, the
board will vote on ratification of the community certification. A quorum of
the board must be reached in favor of certifying the product or service in
order for the vote to pass. [BOARD JUST HERE TO RATIFY - EG IN THE CASE
THAT THERE IS INSUFFICIENT/BIASED/ETC DISCUSSION]
>> The Certification Committee will report back to the Certification List
with the decision and a summary of any board discussion. If the
Certification did not pass, another party may re-submit the product or
service if changes or alterations to it, or the Open Cloud Principles
themselves, would merit redress. If Certification is approved, the product
or service in question will be approved to use the Open Cloud logo and will
be displayed as such on the Open Cloud Initiative website, until such time
as revoked by way of subsequent review.
>>
>> Template for Submission
>>
>> Name of Product or Service:
>>
>> Web address where information about the product or service can be found:
>>
>> Web address where technical documentation about the product or service
can be found:
>>
>> Brief description of the product or service:
>>
>> How does the product or service use Open Standard formats to represent
user data and mata data?
>>
>> How does the product or service expose functionality via Open Standard
interfaces?
>>
>> Is there any other information the community should be aware of
pertaining to how the product or service complies with the Open Cloud
Principles document?
>>
>>
>> Please attach any supporting technical documentation not available on
the open internet.
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