+1 with Dick on additional corporate members.  I've had conversations with BBC 
(Zac Bjelogrlic, Dirk-willem Van.gulik ) and PayPal (Andrew Nash) and know that 
both organizations would both like to join.  I don't know who else in on the 
list of possible new members, but if we have up to 5 corporate spots to fill 
and these two firms are willing to make a commitment of time and dollars, I 
think we should not delay.

BBC has already shown their leadership by hosting the Content Provider Advisory 
Committee meeting in NYC several weeks ago.  They've also OpenID enabled 
RadioPop and are looking at additional properties to roll out.  They've offered 
to work with NPR (who was also at the NYC session) to see if we can get BBC, 
NPR, PBS, and CBC to collaborate on OpenID enablement initiatives.  And in any 
case, we need some large representative RPs on the BOD.  As I've said before, I 
think media companies are a next logical adopter of OpenID, so would welcome 
BBC's membership.

PayPal would also be great because they have a lot of experience in managing 
phishing and general security infrastructure and represent the perspective of 
merchants and payment infrastructure providers, which we need represented on 
the BOD if we want to continue to expand the applicability and value of OpenID 
beyond user generated content access.

I don't know if these are the companies we're thinking about voting on near 
term, but if so, I would strongly endorse their membership.  I also agree with 
Dick that getting the funding commitment from these two companies in uncertain 
financial times is critical and will actually help with hiring the new ED and 
coming up with a reasonable budget for the various initiatives we'll want to 
undertake in 2009.  For those that didn't see Nat Sakimura's announcement about 
OpenID 
Japan<http://openid.net/2008/11/03/openid-japan-launches-with-32-member-companies/>,
 they are making great progress and we need to have equally compelling 
aspirations.

With respect to community membership, JanRain would certainly welcome the 
opportunity to contribute as a BOD member, but we'll continue to participate 
via my membership on the Marketing and Customer Research Committee regardless.

We are working with Research Media to get the OpenID membership polling 
solution working this week and the BOD election system working next week.   
Regardless of that, I don't think we should wait on the BOD vote the two 
additional corporate members.

There is a lot of good buzz going on right now with the Microsoft and Google 
announcements.  If we could also announce these two new corporate BOD members 
at IIW, that we can continue to build on that momentum.

So, IMHO, we should do the vote on the 2 additional corporate sponsors right 
now (assuming they are still willing) and finalize them this week.  If we want 
to wait on community members, that's fine with me.

Cheers,

Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dick Hardt
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion

I don't see any advantage to the coupling of hiring an ED and bringing on new 
board members. Any ED is going to look at the risk of getting paid. Bringing in 
money before hand is a good sign. In the current economic climate, making a 
donation to a Foundation is going to come under increased scrutiny.

The bylaws allow the board to appoint temporary community board members as need 
be -- something we would want to do in case someone needs to resign for some 
reason.

Only bringing on corporate members one at elections does not serve us well. We 
have a product, which is membership, and we should remove barriers to selling 
it rather then raising it -- and requiring the timing to coincide with an 
election does not serve anyone well -- except those that want to make board 
membership exclusive.

We have been working on having elections since last March.

As noted in my financial report, not bringing these corporate members on board 
was a bad financial decision.

-- Dick

On 24-Oct-08, at 6:49 PM, DeWitt Clinton wrote:


Sort of.  I think we should have finished the discussion about how to proceed 
with a full five new corporate board members, timed that around the hiring of 
the new ED, and ideally scheduled all of it around the election of new 
community members.  With those three pieces in place we then could make a 
coordinated engagement on all three.  Four pieces, in fact, as we can count the 
CRC in there as well.

I share your frustration, Dick, and I agree that sometimes a vote makes a good 
forcing function.  It's taken far too long to get where we are, and I happen to 
concur that those were fine nominees.  And I especially welcome Brian's 
continued leadership in any case.

Hopefully this is the kick in the pants we need to close in expediently on the 
missing pieces.  And then I'd welcome seeing this come up for a vote again in 
the near future.

Cheers,

-DeWitt
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Do you have a suggestion on how this should have been done differently by me?

I made the motion on the board call and agreed to withdraw it until after the 
membership committee report was published, and then we could do the vote over 
email. Agreed that the vote should have been started on the public list -- but 
we are here now.

Do you have a new motion to bring the nominees on the board that you would 
support that we could act upon?

-- Dick


On 24-Oct-08, at 5:17 PM, DeWitt Clinton wrote:


This is not a vote against any of the nominees, but procedurally and 
organizationally we can do better than this.  Hence to the motion as it stands 
at this time:

-1

-DeWitt
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Raj Mata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>> wrote:
-1.

Agree with Gary.

Raj

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On
Behalf Of Krall, Gary
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:42 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion

-1.

As we are actively in the process of recruiting for a Executive Director
which my understanding is should complete shortly coupled; with the
manner in which this vote has been requested/handled is a clear
indication to me that adding any additional members at this time would
not be prudent.

Gary.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]On
Behalf Of Dick Hardt
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:48 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion
Importance: High


(this motion was originally posted on the board-private list to
protect the confidentiality of the potential corporate board members
-- reposting to public list to provide transparency to community)

Background:

There are two corporations that have expressed interest in joining the
OpenID Foundation for the last six months. The board approved adding 5
new corporate board seats, to be balanced with community seats so that
the community seats have a majority.
Brian Kissel has been active on the marketing committee and the
customer research committee. He organized a gathering of content
providers in NY that led to the OpoenID UX summit last Monday.
The primary source of funding for the Foundation is corporate board
seats. In order to fund a new Executive Director and OpenID adoption
initiatives, we need more funding. The patience of the two
corporations is running thin as they have been waiting for far to long
for a decision from the board.

The motion: Add the two corporate board seats and add Brian Kissel as
the community seat. Brian's seat (like all other community board
seats) would be up for re-election when we hold an election.

All board members need to vote or abstain for the motion to be
considered.

Votes to date:

+1 Dick Hardt (made motion)
+1 Martin Atkins (seconded motion)
-1 David Recordon
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