I remain uncomfortable adding any new board members, corporate or otherwise, until we hold the election.
Admittedly, back around Feb/March this year I was vocal about wanting us to have a larger membership base before holding elections. A membership drive was one way to do that. Another was my suggestion to drop membership fees. But now I'm reversing my earlier position. (Had I known the election would be pushed all the way into 2009 waiting for a membership drive, then I wouldn't have taken that position to begin with.) So I recommend we just go ahead and hold the election now. Worst case, we have a board that represents a smaller membership than we'd like. I'd still prefer that over self-selecting new community board members. -DeWitt On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It will be a while before we can have a real election. > We agreed we would finish our messaging so that we could then market to the > membership so that it is clear the value of membership. Then we can have > nominations, then we can vote. > > We are still a little ways from having the messaging done. A marketing > drive and nomination process likely will take a couple weeks each at least. > We are minimum a couple months from having an election unfortunately. > > -- Dick > > On 4-Nov-08, at 11:09 AM, DeWitt Clinton wrote: > > Rather than do it this way, why don't we simply start an open nomination > process (i.e., not nominations made by the board) and schedule a real > community election, as voted in by the members? > > -DeWitt > > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Drummond Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > >> +1 to Snorri's nomination – his work speaks for itself. >> >> >> =Drummond >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On >> Behalf Of *David Recordon >> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:42 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion >> >> >> If we're in nomination mode, then I'd also like to nominate Snorri to join >> as a community board member (if he is willing to accept that nomination). >> Snorri has done amazing community work internationally which should be >> directly supported by the Foundation. >> >> >> On Nov 4, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Drummond Reed wrote: >> >> >> >> +1 to all Brian's points here. I want to clarify again that my >> objection last week was not to moving forward on this – I am very supportive >> of adding additional corporate board members immediately -- it was only to >> the difficulty of closing what turned out to be a contentious issue via an >> email vote. >> >> >> I am all for holding a vote this week if we want to call a meeting. Worst >> case we could hold the vote at the BOD meeting next Monday afternoon at IIW. >> (Have we set an exact time/location for that meeting? Will there be dial-in >> so all board members can participate if they are not at IIW in person?) >> >> >> Also, in terms of community board members, I would like to nominate Brian >> Kissel to join as a community board member (if he is willing to accept that >> nomination). I'd move for that vote to be held at the same time so he could >> join the board at the same time as the new corporate board members. >> >> >> =Drummond >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> ] *On Behalf Of *Brian Kissel >> *Sent:* Monday, November 03, 2008 4:47 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion >> >> >> +1 with Dick on additional corporate members. I've had conversations with >> BBC (Zac Bjelogrlic, Dirk-willem Van.gulik ) and PayPal (Andrew Nash) and >> know that both organizations would both like to join. I don't know who else >> in on the list of possible new members, but if we have up to 5 corporate >> spots to fill and these two firms are willing to make a commitment of time >> and dollars, I think we should not delay. >> >> >> BBC has already shown their leadership by hosting the Content Provider >> Advisory Committee meeting in NYC several weeks ago. They've also OpenID >> enabled RadioPop and are looking at additional properties to roll out. >> They've offered to work with NPR (who was also at the NYC session) to see if >> we can get BBC, NPR, PBS, and CBC to collaborate on OpenID enablement >> initiatives. And in any case, we need some large representative RPs on the >> BOD. As I've said before, I think media companies are a next logical >> adopter of OpenID, so would welcome BBC's membership. >> >> >> PayPal would also be great because they have a lot of experience in >> managing phishing and general security infrastructure and represent the >> perspective of merchants and payment infrastructure providers, which we need >> represented on the BOD if we want to continue to expand the applicability >> and value of OpenID beyond user generated content access. >> >> >> I don't know if these are the companies we're thinking about voting on >> near term, but if so, I would strongly endorse their membership. I also >> agree with Dick that getting the funding commitment from these two companies >> in uncertain financial times is critical and will actually help with hiring >> the new ED and coming up with a reasonable budget for the various >> initiatives we'll want to undertake in 2009. For those that didn't see Nat >> Sakimura's announcement about OpenID >> Japan<http://openid.net/2008/11/03/openid-japan-launches-with-32-member-companies/>, >> they are making great progress and we need to have equally compelling >> aspirations. >> >> >> With respect to community membership, JanRain would certainly welcome the >> opportunity to contribute as a BOD member, but we'll continue to participate >> via my membership on the Marketing and Customer Research Committee >> regardless. >> >> >> We are working with Research Media to get the OpenID membership polling >> solution working this week and the BOD election system working next week. >> Regardless of that, I don't think we should wait on the BOD vote the two >> additional corporate members. >> >> >> There is a lot of good buzz going on right now with the Microsoft and >> Google announcements. If we could also announce these two new corporate BOD >> members at IIW, that we can continue to build on that momentum. >> >> >> So, IMHO, we should do the vote on the 2 additional corporate sponsors >> right now (assuming they are still willing) and finalize them this week. If >> we want to wait on community members, that's fine with me. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Brian >> >> *==============* >> >> *Brian Kissel* >> >> *Cell: 503.866.4424* >> >> *Fax: 503.296.5502* >> >> >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> ] *On Behalf Of *Dick Hardt >> *Sent:* Monday, November 03, 2008 3:54 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion >> >> >> I don't see any advantage to the coupling of hiring an ED and bringing on >> new board members. Any ED is going to look at the risk of getting paid. >> Bringing in money before hand is a good sign. In the current economic >> climate, making a donation to a Foundation is going to come under increased >> scrutiny. >> >> >> The bylaws allow the board to appoint temporary community board members as >> need be -- something we would want to do in case someone needs to resign for >> some reason. >> >> >> Only bringing on corporate members one at elections does not serve us >> well. We have a product, which is membership, and we should remove barriers >> to selling it rather then raising it -- and requiring the timing to coincide >> with an election does not serve anyone well -- except those that want to >> make board membership exclusive. >> >> >> We have been working on having elections since last March. >> >> >> As noted in my financial report, not bringing these corporate members on >> board was a bad financial decision. >> >> >> -- Dick >> >> >> On 24-Oct-08, at 6:49 PM, DeWitt Clinton wrote: >> >> >> Sort of. I think we should have finished the discussion about how to >> proceed with a full five new corporate board members, timed that around the >> hiring of the new ED, and ideally scheduled all of it around the election of >> new community members. With those three pieces in place we then could make >> a coordinated engagement on all three. Four pieces, in fact, as we can >> count the CRC in there as well. >> >> I share your frustration, Dick, and I agree that sometimes a vote makes a >> good forcing function. It's taken far too long to get where we are, and I >> happen to concur that those were fine nominees. And I especially welcome >> Brian's continued leadership in any case. >> >> Hopefully this is the kick in the pants we need to close in expediently on >> the missing pieces. And then I'd welcome seeing this come up for a vote >> again in the near future. >> >> Cheers, >> >> -DeWitt >> >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Do you have a suggestion on how this should have been done differently by >> me? >> >> >> I made the motion on the board call and agreed to withdraw it until after >> the membership committee report was published, and then we could do the vote >> over email. Agreed that the vote should have been started on the public list >> -- but we are here now. >> >> >> Do you have a new motion to bring the nominees on the board that you would >> support that we could act upon? >> >> >> -- Dick >> >> >> >> On 24-Oct-08, at 5:17 PM, DeWitt Clinton wrote: >> >> >> This is not a vote against any of the nominees, but procedurally and >> organizationally we can do better than this. Hence to the motion as it >> stands at this time: >> >> -1 >> >> -DeWitt >> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Raj Mata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> -1. >> >> Agree with Gary. >> >> Raj >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> >> Behalf Of Krall, Gary >> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:42 PM >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion >> >> -1. >> >> As we are actively in the process of recruiting for a Executive Director >> which my understanding is should complete shortly coupled; with the >> manner in which this vote has been requested/handled is a clear >> indication to me that adding any additional members at this time would >> not be prudent. >> >> Gary. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Behalf Of Dick Hardt >> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:48 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [OpenID board] URGENT: New Board members motion >> Importance: High >> >> >> (this motion was originally posted on the board-private list to >> protect the confidentiality of the potential corporate board members >> -- reposting to public list to provide transparency to community) >> >> Background: >> >> There are two corporations that have expressed interest in joining the >> OpenID Foundation for the last six months. The board approved adding 5 >> new corporate board seats, to be balanced with community seats so that >> the community seats have a majority. >> Brian Kissel has been active on the marketing committee and the >> customer research committee. He organized a gathering of content >> providers in NY that led to the OpoenID UX summit last Monday. >> The primary source of funding for the Foundation is corporate board >> seats. In order to fund a new Executive Director and OpenID adoption >> initiatives, we need more funding. The patience of the two >> corporations is running thin as they have been waiting for far to long >> for a decision from the board. >> >> The motion: Add the two corporate board seats and add Brian Kissel as >> the community seat. Brian's seat (like all other community board >> seats) would be up for re-election when we hold an election. >> >> All board members need to vote or abstain for the motion to be >> considered. >> >> Votes to date: >> >> +1 Dick Hardt (made motion) >> +1 Martin Atkins (seconded motion) >> -1 David Recordon >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 3580 (20081103) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >> >> > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > [email protected] > http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > [email protected] > http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board > >
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