Can we at least decide one way or the other whether I can open the openid.googlecode.com project up to Chris and others representing the OIDF?
-DeWitt On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:47 AM, David Recordon <[email protected]> wrote: > No, Heraldry failed because the two companies responsible for the majority > of OpenID implementations at the time didn't want to work within the ASF's > process. This is one of the reasons why community based open source > development is important beyond just corporate backed development. > I think Chris' proposal is sound, he has buy in from various library > contributors, we have a way to let people like Mart continue developing on > GitHub, and I'm not seeing a concrete alternative proposal with someone > willing to lead it and make it happen like Chris is. So I'm sorry, but can > we please move forward? > > If we believe that the best path forward is for Chris to first make > http://openid.net/code then lets do that, but I agree with him that an > OpenID Google Code project is a demonstrable piece of forward momentum. The > wider developer community has expressed many times over that OpenID's > libraries are not of the quality that they need to be and it is the > Foundation's job to help fix that. > > --David > > On Jun 1, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Johannes Ernst wrote: > > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Johannes Ernst <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> We had this discussion before and it lead to the Apache incubator named >> Heraldry. Admittedly that one failed, but I don't think it was because of >> the name ;-) >> > > If it wasn't the name, can you describe why it failed. I've heard of > Heraldry, but am not familiar with its structure or fate. > > > The idea was to incubate within the Apache Software Foundation an > open-source project developing OpenID-related functionality. Libraries were > donated into it, and an entire OpenID provider was donated into it. There > was broad support from all parts of the OpenID community. We figured being > associated with the ASF would not be a bad idea, and the Apache license > sounded good, too. > > The incubation process failed because basically nobody "did anything" in > terms of writing code. > > I am curious how you think that the foundation should best go about > creating or facilitating the creation of the circumstances that would lead > to world-class open source OpenID libraries being developed. > > I haven't heard alternative proposals, but I have received some negative > feedback towards my proposals, and yet the libraries are still not writing > themselves. > > > Well, from what I can see the openid4java project has some traction. It is > my understanding that code from that project has been incorporated into some > large-scale commercial offerings. It's a small community but it is active > and has been for a while. So they are doing something right. Perhaps one > could attempt to broaden that project beyond Java? > > I think a similar question needs to be asked about commercial/proprietary > implementations. There aren't a whole lot of those either. I would stipulate > that it is for the same reason. > > Now stop me because I'm about the speculate why that is. ;-) But that > wasn't your question. > > Cheers, > > > > Johannes. > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > [email protected] > http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > [email protected] > http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board > >
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