Simplest and very truthfully is of course: "Running, trying to meet deadline". Does that really need an explanation of "borrowing time", "running ahead of the pack", "skipping queue", "take precedence", "risk at missing" or "high priority"?
-- Jord van der Elst. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Juha <juha.sointus...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, yes. > > You suggested earlier "Borrowing time to make deadline". If I had not read > this thread and if Manager said something like that to me, I think my > initial reaction would be "It does what?". > > -Juha > > > On 3 October 2014 21:44, McLeod, John <john.mcl...@sap.com> wrote: > >> That misses the detail that the time is borrowed, and will be paid back. >> >> Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* Juha [juha.sointus...@gmail.com] >> *Received:* Friday, 03 Oct 2014, 2:22PM >> *To:* BOINC Development [boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu] >> *Subject:* Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >> >> "Skipping queue to meet deadline" ? >> >> -Juha >> >> >> On 3 October 2014 19:15, Jacob Klein <jacob_w_kl...@msn.com> wrote: >> >> > I still would like to see "Prioritized to meet deadline" in the UI, next >> > to "Running", despite David's logic against it. >> > >> > The user's interpretations are not something we can control. >> > Providing the feedback, using as meaningful description as possible, is >> > something we can control. >> > And I haven't heard anything that beats my proposal, hence why I'd still >> > like to see it. >> > :) >> > >> > >> > >> > > From: john.mcl...@sap.com >> > > To: els...@gmail.com >> > > Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 16:13:11 +0000 >> > > CC: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu >> > > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >> > > >> > > I know the dictionary meanings. Precedence tends to carry a >> connotation >> > of permanent. Preference t (in computers at least) tends to mean >> settable >> > by the user. >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Jord van der Elst [mailto:els...@gmail.com <els...@gmail.com>] >> > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:10 PM >> > > To: McLeod, John >> > > Cc: David Anderson; BOINC Dev Mailing List >> > > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >> > > >> > > Priority: a thing that is regarded as more important than another. >> > > or: the fact or condition of being regarded or treated as more >> important. >> > > or: the right to take precedence or to proceed before others. ** <--- >> > > >> > > Precedence: the condition of being considered more important than >> > > someone or something else; priority in importance, order, or rank. >> > > I'd say it's second to (high) priority. >> > > >> > > Preference: a greater liking for one alternative over another or >> others. >> > > or: a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the >> > > payment of debts. >> > > >> > > We want to step away from priority, but do we still want it to have >> > > the same meaning? As then you look at synonyms, which is what I did: >> > > http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/priority >> > > >> > > -- Jord van der Elst. >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM, McLeod, John <john.mcl...@sap.com> >> > wrote: >> > > > Neither preference nor precedence has the quite right meaning in >> > English though. >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: boinc_dev [mailto:boinc_dev-boun...@ssl.berkeley.edu >> <boinc_dev-boun...@ssl.berkeley.edu>] On Behalf >> > Of Jord van der Elst >> > > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:53 AM >> > > > To: David Anderson >> > > > Cc: BOINC Dev Mailing List >> > > > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >> > > > >> > > > Task xx_yy_zz running as preference, trying to meet the deadline. >> > > > Task xx_yy_zz running in precedence, trying to meet the deadline. >> > > > >> > > > Seeing how we do want to tell that it's a status in order of >> > > > importance or urgency, we may want to go for the second one. >> > > > >> > > > -- Jord van der Elst. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:44 PM, David Anderson < >> da...@ssl.berkeley.edu> >> > wrote: >> > > >> I think anything containing "priority" will create confusion >> > > >> with OS priority. >> > > >> >> > > >> The other problem with showing this info is that it creates the >> > > >> erroneous impression that the job's project will get more than >> > > >> its fair share of computing. >> > > >> Several projects report that when they use short job deadlines >> > > >> (which create "high priority" jobs) they get lots of user >> complaints. >> > > >> >> > > >> So I'm in favor of not showing this in the GUI; >> > > >> maybe we can show it in the event log in some better way. >> > > >> >> > > >> -- D >> > > >> >> > > >> On 03-Oct-2014 3:24 PM, Jacob Klein wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> I'd like to see "Prioritized to meet deadline" in the UI, next to >> > > >>> "Running". >> > > >>> >> > > >>> ________________________________ >> > > >>> From: Richard Haselgrove<mailto:r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com >> <r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com>> >> > > >>> Sent: 10/3/2014 9:19 AM >> > > >>> To: McLeod, John<mailto:john.mcl...@sap.com <john.mcl...@sap.com> >> >; >> > > >>> boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu<mailto:boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu> >> > > >>> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> The removal followed a question and answer session at the BOINC >> > workshop >> > > >>> in Budapest earlier this week. The OS scheduler mis-interpretation >> > was one >> > > >>> that I highlighted, but there was also a problem with users >> thinking >> > that >> > > >>> High Priority was a project-chosen queue-jumping facility. I think >> > we're >> > > >>> much better off without those confusions over terminology, but I >> > agree with >> > > >>> John that it would be good if the reason for non-FIFO running could >> > be >> > > >>> marked in some way - if we can find a less-frightening word. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> ________________________________ >> > > >>>> From: "McLeod, John" <john.mcl...@sap.com> >> > > >>>> To: "boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu" <boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu> >> > > >>>> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 2:01 PM >> > > >>>> Subject: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> OK, High Priority made it sound like it was running at High OS >> > Scheduler >> > > >>>> Priority, but some tag that it is not in the normal RR schedule >> > might be >> > > >>>> good for helping diagnose problems. >> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ >> > > >>>> boinc_dev mailing list >> > > >>>> boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu >> > > >>>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > > >>>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > > >>>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > > >>> boinc_dev mailing list >> > > >>> boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu >> > > >>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > > >>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > > >>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > > >>> boinc_dev mailing list >> > > >>> boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu >> > > >>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > > >>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > > >>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > > >>> >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > >> boinc_dev mailing list >> > > >> boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu >> > > >> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > > >> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > > >> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > boinc_dev mailing list >> > > > boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu >> > > > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > > > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > > > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > boinc_dev mailing list >> > > boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu >> > > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > boinc_dev mailing list >> > boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu >> > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> boinc_dev mailing list >> boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu >> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > _______________________________________________ > boinc_dev mailing list > boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address.
