Are you going to check with all the anonymous platform developers ? Or just pull down their statues ?
________________________________ From: boinc_dev <boinc_dev-boun...@ssl.berkeley.edu> on behalf of David Anderson <da...@ssl.berkeley.edu> Sent: Tuesday, 22 August 2017 12:58 To: Darrell Holz; boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu; Boinc Projects Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] AMD's CAL If no projects have CAL apps, I don't see any reason to keep the CAL device enumeration code. Anyone else? -- D On 8/21/2017 7:01 PM, Darrell Holz wrote: > From the client_state xml file: > > <coproc_ati> > <count>1</count> > <name>Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics</name> > <available_ram>8589934592.000000</available_ram> > <have_cal>0</have_cal> > <have_opencl>1</have_opencl> > <peak_flops>5990400000000.000000</peak_flops> > <CALVersion></CALVersion> > <target>0</target> > <localRAM>8192</localRAM> > <uncachedRemoteRAM>0</uncachedRemoteRAM> > <cachedRemoteRAM>0</cachedRemoteRAM> > <engineClock>1300</engineClock> > <memoryClock>0</memoryClock> > <wavefrontSize>0</wavefrontSize> > <numberOfSIMD>0</numberOfSIMD> > <doublePrecision>0</doublePrecision> > <pitch_alignment>0</pitch_alignment> > <surface_alignment>0</surface_alignment> > <maxResource1DWidth>0</maxResource1DWidth> > <maxResource2DWidth>0</maxResource2DWidth> > <maxResource2DHeight>0</maxResource2DHeight> > <coproc_opencl> > <name>Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics</name> > <vendor>Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.</vendor> > <vendor_id>4098</vendor_id> > <available>1</available> > <half_fp_config>0</half_fp_config> > <single_fp_config>190</single_fp_config> > <double_fp_config>63</double_fp_config> > <endian_little>1</endian_little> > <execution_capabilities>1</execution_capabilities> > <extensions>cl_khr_fp64 cl_amd_fp64 cl_khr_global_int32_base_atomics > cl_khr_global_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_base_atomics > cl_khr_local_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_int64_base_atomics > cl_khr_int64_extended_atomics cl_khr_3d_image_writes > cl_khr_byte_addressable_store > cl_khr_fp16 cl_khr_gl_sharing cl_khr_gl_depth_images > cl_amd_device_attribute_query > cl_amd_vec3 cl_amd_printf cl_amd_media_ops cl_amd_media_ops2 cl_amd_popcnt > cl_khr_d3d10_sharing cl_khr_d3d11_sharing cl_khr_dx9_media_sharing > cl_khr_image2d_from_buffer cl_khr_spir cl_khr_subgroups cl_khr_gl_event > cl_khr_depth_images cl_khr_mipmap_image cl_khr_mipmap_image_writes > cl_amd_liquid_flash</extensions> > <global_mem_size>8589934592</global_mem_size> > <local_mem_size>32768</local_mem_size> > <max_clock_frequency>1300</max_clock_frequency> > <max_compute_units>36</max_compute_units> > <nv_compute_capability_major>0</nv_compute_capability_major> > <nv_compute_capability_minor>0</nv_compute_capability_minor> > <amd_simd_per_compute_unit>4</amd_simd_per_compute_unit> > <amd_simd_width>16</amd_simd_width> > <amd_simd_instruction_width>1</amd_simd_instruction_width> > <opencl_platform_version>OpenCL 2.0 AMD-APP > (2442.8)</opencl_platform_version> > <opencl_device_version>OpenCL 2.0 AMD-APP > (2442.8)</opencl_device_version> > <opencl_driver_version>2442.8</opencl_driver_version> > </coproc_opencl> > </coproc_ati> > > Correct me if I am wrong, but the first section would be populated with > values if > the CAL detection code was working properly. Even when the ATI library was > found, > the values were not reported because Boinc I believe was not enumerating the > CAL > targets correctly. In the Opencl section notice that the number of SIMD units > is > correctly reported, but for some reason Boinc is detecting an error returned > by > the driver. Don't know if it is a problem in our code or in AMD's. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Anderson <da...@ssl.berkeley.edu> > To: boinc_dev <boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu> > Sent: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 8:07 pm > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] AMD's CAL > > What GPU info does the CAL function provide that OpenCL doesn't? > -- David > > On 8/21/2017 2:39 PM, Darrell Holz wrote: > > I am moving this response over from the Boinc Alpha list about the 7.8.1 > startup, because the discussion is more appropriate here. Yes AMD has > publically > switched from CAL to OpenCl a few years back, but the CAL files are still > apart of > the driver. Even the new RX Vega drivers still has the files included in > them. The > question is what are they using them for? I don't believe it is to maintain > backwards compatibility, because AMD is very quick at cutting off support for > anything they consider legacy. I thought that maybe they were using them as > some > sort of low level access to the GPU for Opencl, and to test this I renamed the > files and restarted Boinc. Low and behold, Opencl has been and is working > correctly for over 24 hours now with out the files, so again why are they > still > apart of the driver and what are they using them for? Here is a link to a > project > on Github for a AMD GPU assembler and disassembler that uses the CAL and the > modifications to get it working on an RX4 > 80 > > > > : > > > > > [url]https://github.com/zawawawa/CLRX-mirror/commit/05ed08a1cbf1af589a22e329b755592df4b6b61e[/url] > > > > I think that the problem in the Boinc detection of CAL is that it does not > properly enumerate all of the possible CAL targets. > > > > Even if Boinc gets the enumeration correct, about the only good thing that > > the > CAL provides now is more information about the capabilities of the GPU. And > since > no projects that have tasks that run on an AMD GPU that still use a CAL > program, > the time it might take to get it working correctly might not be worth it for > just > the increase in info. So in fact it might be better to just remove the CAL > detection completely from Boinc reducing its size and startup time. > > > > Log from last restart: > > > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:08 [---] Starting BOINC client version 7.8.1 for > > windows_x86_64 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:19 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, > > coproc_debug, > cpu_sched, cpu_sched_debug > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:19 [---] log flags: cpu_sched_status, > > idle_detection_debug, > scrsave_debug, task_debug > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:19 [---] log flags: unparsed_xml, work_fetch_debug > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:19 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2g > > zlib/1.2.8 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:19 [---] Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:19 [---] Running under account Darrell > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] [coproc] launching child process at C:\Program > Files\BOINC\boinc.exe > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] [coproc] relative to directory > > C:\ProgramData\BOINC > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] [coproc] with data directory > > "C:\ProgramData\BOINC" > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: Radeon (TM) RX 480 > > Graphics > (driver version 2348.4, device version OpenCL 2.0 AMD-APP (2348.4), 8192MB, > 8192MB > available, 5990 GFLOPS peak) > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] [coproc] No NVIDIA library found > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] [coproc] No ATI library found. > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] [coproc] clGetDeviceInfo failed to get > CL_DEVICE_SIMD_PER_COMPUTE_UNIT_AMD for device 0 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] Host name: darrell-II > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] Processor: 6 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 > > 1100T > Processor [Family 16 Model 10 Stepping 0] > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae > > mce > cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni > cx16 > popcnt syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext > 3dnow > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Professional x64 > > Edition, > Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00) > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] Memory: 8.00 GB physical, 16.00 GB virtual > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] Disk: 931.41 GB total, 461.93 GB free > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] Local time is UTC -5 hours > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] VirtualBox version: 5.1.26 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [BURP] Found app_config.xml > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [Collatz Conjecture] Found app_config.xml > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [Cosmology@Home] Found app_config.xml > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [Einstein@Home] Found app_config.xml > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [Enigma@Home] Found app_config.xml > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [LHC@home] Found app_config.xml > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [Milkyway@Home] Found app_config.xml > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [Moo! Wrapper] Found app_config.xml > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [PrimeGrid] Found app_config.xml > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [SETI@home] Found app_config.xml > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [SETI@home Beta Test] Found app_config.xml > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [XANSONS for COD] Found app_config.xml > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] Config: event log limit 4000 lines > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] Config: report completed tasks immediately > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:22 [---] Config: use all coprocessors > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [Asteroids@home] URL http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/; Asteroids@home<http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/> asteroidsathome.net About Asteroids@home Asteroids@home is a research project that uses Internet-connected computers to do research in Asteroids@home. You can participate by downloading ... > Computer ID 9594; resource share 100 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [BURP] URL http://burp.renderfarming.net/; Computer ID RenderFarming.net - BURP<http://burp.renderfarming.net/> burp.renderfarming.net An opensource BOINC-based project to build an online renderfarm for Blender and Cycles that everyone can use for free > 50245; resource share 120 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [climateathome] URL > https://climateathome.info/climateathome/; Computer ID 537; resource share 100 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [climateprediction.net] URL > > http://climateprediction.net/; > Computer ID 1433506; resource share 100 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [Collatz Conjecture] URL > https://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/; Computer ID 61225; resource share 130 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [Cosmology@Home] URL http://www.cosmologyathome.org/; > Computer ID 178996; resource share 100 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [Einstein@Home] URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; > > Computer > ID 6364728; resource share 160 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [Enigma@Home] URL http://www.enigmaathome.net/; > > Computer ID > 48591; resource share 130 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [LHC@home] URL https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/; > Computer ID 9915737; resource share 100 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [Milkyway@Home] URL > > http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; > Computer ID 276775; resource share 150 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [Moo! Wrapper] URL http://moowrap.net/; Computer ID > > 20083; > resource share 140 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [NFS@Home] URL http://escatter11.fullerton.edu/nfs/; > Computer ID 1351618; resource share 100 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [Pirates@Home] URL http://pirates.spy-hill.net/; > > Computer > ID 68764; resource share 165 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [pogs] URL http://pogs.theskynet.org/pogs/; Computer ID > 33036; resource share 100 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [PrimeGrid] URL http://www.primegrid.com/; Computer ID > 195434; resource share 170 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [Rosetta@home] URL http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; > Computer ID 1433197; resource share 100 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [SETI@home] URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; > > Computer > ID 5882763; resource share 160 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [SETI@home Beta Test] URL > http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/; Computer ID 50720; resource share 150 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] URL > > http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/; > Computer ID 330230; resource share 100 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [Universe@Home] URL http://universeathome.pl/universe/; > Computer ID 73876; resource share 100 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [VolPEx] URL http://volpexathome.cs.uh.edu/VolPEx/; > Computer ID 5423; resource share 100 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [XANSONS for COD] URL > > http://xansons4cod.com/xansons4cod/; > Computer ID 1073; resource share 140 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [SETI@home] General prefs: from SETI@home (last > > modified > 28-May-2017 01:15:47) > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [SETI@home] Computer location: home > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [---] General prefs: using separate prefs for home > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [---] Reading preferences override file > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [---] Preferences: > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [---] max memory usage when active: 6553.04 MB > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:23 [---] max memory usage when idle: 7781.74 MB > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:34 [---] max disk usage: 200.00 GB > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:34 [---] max CPUs used: 5 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:34 [---] (to change preferences, visit a project web site > > or > select Preferences in the Manager) > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:34 [---] [cpu_sched_debug] Request CPU reschedule: Prefs > > update > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:34 [---] [work_fetch] Request work fetch: Prefs update > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:34 [---] [cpu_sched_debug] Request CPU reschedule: Startup > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:34 [---] [work_fetch] Request work fetch: Startup > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:37 [SETI@home Beta Test] File > projects/setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu_beta/AstroPulse_Kernels_r2742.cl has wrong > size: > expected 122344, got 122618 > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:38 Initialization completed > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:38 [---] [cpu_sched_debug] Request CPU reschedule: Not > > idle > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:38 [---] [cpu_sched_debug] Request CPU reschedule: > > periodic > CPU scheduling > > 20-Aug-2017 09:44:38 [---] [cpu_sched_debug] schedule_cpus(): start > > > > With the renaming of the CAL files, Boinc correctly reports that no ATI > > library > is found. OpenCL is found and works, but clDeviceInfo does throw the error > about > not getting the number of SIMD units, but it does. And Boinc is warning about > the > Astropulse r2742.cl not being the correct size. It does this because with the > last > change to the file I made, I forgot to change the file size in the > client_state > file. (trying to get the Astropulse units to validate, with the recent batch > of > test units on SetiBeta, I'm still getting some inconclusives thrown, but more > of > them are validating now, but that's a different problem). > > > > _______________________________________________ > > boinc_dev mailing list > > boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu <mailto:boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu> > > https://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > > _______________________________________________ > boinc_dev mailing list > boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu <mailto:boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu> > https://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu https://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address. _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu https://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address.
