That's very curious. I've never seen that syntax of doing
username:password@ before the url. How do I tap into that information?
Can it be done via php, or is it an apache thing?  Would it work to do
something like:

http://www.example.com/index.php?p=blog&password=123456789 or something?

I could write up a site.auth.rss which would allow certain pages to be
viewed only with certain passwords embedded like this. But the other
question is, what kind of error message should go back to an rss feed
that was blocked. Do you have a sample of the syntax?

Cheers,
Dan

P.S. I know I could do all this research myself, but very pressed for
time. Any help you could give with this would save me a few minutes.
Happy to code it. Just need the research.



On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Markus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Sep 21, 8:35 pm, The Editor <[email protected]> wrote:
>> How does that work? Do you put in a simple username/password
>> unencrypted right in the url?  Easy enough to do. Perhaps you can do a
>> bit of research and find out how it is normally done...
>
> HTTP authentification seems to be the most straightforward and well
> supported way to do this:
> http://username:[email protected]/path/to/feed/
>
> Of course, this can be combined with SSL but as most BoltWire sites
> will not use encryption when you login via a browser...
>
> Regards, Markus
>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Markus <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > While we are at RSS... What about username + password protection of
>> > feeds? I have a private site for which I would like to have a feed. Of
>> > course, putting private pages to a public feed is not my intention.
>> > Most feed readers seem to support authentication for feeds.
>>
>> > Regards, Markus
>>
>> > On Sep 21, 7:30 pm, Markus <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> On Sep 21, 4:13 pm, The Editor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Markus <[email protected]> 
>> >> > wrote:
>>
>> >> > > First, it's definitely the newest script version. Also the searches I
>> >> > > tried matched just two pages most of the time. The one I posted above
>> >> > > _should_ match around 20 or 25 at most. But read on...
>>
>> >> > Do you have your site fully indexed? It should affect the
>> >> > group=parameter, but if you are trying to do text/data/link, etc,
>> >> > indexing is essential.
>>
>> >> I have put [(index)] into my footer.
>>
>> >> > > Lesson 1:
>> >> > > One important information for the solutions page is that RSS might not
>> >> > > work with MAMP or the like on your localhost. The same code that gives
>> >> > > at least some RSS output on my server ends with an internal server
>> >> > > error when used with MAMP offline. As Dan pointed out, some tools
>> >> > > might be missing.
>>
>> >> > Possible, but not necessarily. I got the recent server errors online
>> >> > because something in my online configuration setup triggered a php bug
>> >> > that was not triggered offline. Nothing to do with apache--though it
>> >> > did a lousy job reporting the error. And even then windows and linux
>> >> > work differently in certain situations, so it could be anything. If it
>> >> > was a missing library, I would think you would get a message in your
>> >> > php error log for calling an undefined function. Have you checked your
>> >> > error logs?
>>
>> >> Sorry, I forgot to check the logs when you first mentioned it. Indeed,
>> >> every page hit gives this entry in the MAMP PHP error log:
>> >> [21-Sep-2009 16:43:09] PHP Notice:  Undefined index:  errors in /Users/
>> >> m/Sites/boltwire/barn/scripts/engine.php on line 17
>>
>> >> > > Lesson 2:
>> >> > > Even when action=rsslist shows exactly what you want to feed, it is no
>> >> > > guarantee that these pages will display in your RSS reader.
>> >> > > Dan, if interested you can check out the following page with the login
>> >> > > I gave you:
>> >> > > rss.listOKfeedNotOK (rsslist OK, feed broken)
>>
>> >> > This is very strange. The critical lines in the rssfeed function are 
>> >> > these:
>>
>> >> >         $pages = BOLTsort(BOLTsearchPageList($args, $zone), $args); // 
>> >> > add
>> >> > third false for no auth checking
>> >> >         if ($_GET['action'] == 'rsslist') return BOLTdisplay($pages, 
>> >> > $args);
>>
>> >> > You'll notice the action=rsslist option uses the exact same array of
>> >> > pages  used later by the script to generate the rss feed. So unless
>> >> > somehow one or the other cancels out some pages for some reason, their
>> >> > output should be the same...  I'm not denying it, just seems strange.
>> >> > Both start with exactly the same list of pages at least.
>>
>> >> > > Lesson 3:
>> >> > > I might not notice when the page RSS was not saved correctly. I edit
>> >> > > the page and save it. I get redirected to view the RSS page which is
>> >> > > automatically opened in my feed reader. Since the RSS page is not
>> >> > > displayed in the browser, the browser still displays the edit page
>> >> > > from before. Any further edits using the "old" edit form won't be
>> >> > > saved. Better remember which edit tabs you already used...
>>
>> >> > Yes, that could be a bit tricky.  :)  You could possibly try creating
>> >> > a custom edit action like this: copy action.edit => action.rss.edit,
>> >> > and add to the end of the form
>>
>> >> > [session nextpage {p}&action=source]
>>
>> >> > That way you should be able to check that what you saved is there now,
>> >> > and get any messages you need. If it works, we could possibly add it
>> >> > to the backup file.
>>
>> >> Yes, that works. Makes it much harder to use the same edit tab more
>> >> than once.
>>
>> >> > > Lesson 4:
>> >> > > It seems to be a misbelief that you can just put a search together
>> >> > > that matches the pages you want to see in your feed, then change the
>> >> > > function name to "rssfeed" and everything works. For example feeding
>> >> > > all pages with a certain keyword does not seem to work. Dan, you can
>> >> > > check:
>> >> > > rss.keyword
>>
>> >> > This is true, but we could add that functionality perhaps.  And in
>> >> > fact this could be our problem... This line in rss.php ~32 should be
>> >> > changed from
>>
>> >> >         $pages = BOLTsort(BOLTsearchPageList($args, $zone), $args); // 
>> >> > add
>> >> > third false for no auth checking
>>
>> >> > to
>>
>> >> >         $pages = BOLTsearchPageList($args, $zone); // add third false 
>> >> > for no
>> >> > auth checking
>>
>> >> > The way it was written, with the new changes to the core search
>> >> > function, the sort function gets called twice.
>>
>> >> Changing this line did not fix the feed. (It's enough to change
>> >> rss.php in the plugins folder, right? As it seems not to be copied to
>> >> the field.)
>>
>> >> > To try adding the other search criteria we need to replace that line
>> >> > with this entire snippet (let me know if it works--we could polish
>> >> > this up more nicely, and I'll update the script):
>>
>> >> >         global $outarray
>> >> >         $outarray = BOLTsearchPageList($args, $zone); // add third 
>> >> > false for
>> >> > no auth checking
>> >> >         if (isset($args['text'])) BOLTcheckNest1($args['text'], 'text', 
>> >> > $args);
>> >> >         if (isset($args['data'])) BOLTcheckNest1($args['data'], 'data', 
>> >> > $args);
>> >> >         if (isset($args['link'])) BOLTcheckNest1($args['link'], 'link', 
>> >> > $args);
>> >> >         $pages = $outarray;
>>
>> >> This breaks the whole field. But only if you don't notice the missing
>> >> semi-colon in the first line. ;)
>>
>> >> This works! Just those pages containing the keyword are put to the
>> >> feed. And "exclude" does its job too. Good work!
>>
>> >> > This would be cool because you could generate a rss feed of all the
>> >> > pages that link to a page. IE, put /*[[rss]]*/ on a page and instantly
>> >> > it gets added to your feed (with link=rss).
>>
>> >> Sounds incredibly useful and flexible!
>>
>> >> > > Some problems I reported might have been caused by my naive approach
>> >> > > to start with some simple matching like this. From reading the
>> >> > > solutions page I expected that "rssfeed" can be used with all the
>> >> > > parameters of "search".
>>
>> >> > Let's see if we can't fix the code before we fix the docs.  :)
>>
>> >> Just in case... it was not meant to offend the editor of the docs. ;)
>>
>> >> > > Lesson 5:
>> >> > > When using a page named "rss" (and not some lower hierarchy like
>> >> > > rss.whatever), the following line is put into the edit field:
>> >> > >http://www.domain.com/field/index.php?p=rss
>> >> > > I think you won't see this when you use for example rss.blog. It would
>> >> > > be a non-issue if the solutions page did not specifically say that you
>> >> > > can use "rss" as the page name. :)
>>
>> >> > It should not do this anyway. And it just did it for me!  We have some
>> >> > weird things going on here, Markus...  I'm very busy this week, but
>> >> > I'll stick with you as best I can and try to work through it with you.
>>
>> >> > Another problem. I tried installing rss in a new field, didn't get it
>> >> > to work, then uninstalled. Got a white screen. Traced it down to a
>> >> > couple lines in engine.php that need to be rewritten:
>>
>> >> > ~1428 or so.
>>
>> >> >                 elseif ($pageArray[0] == 'rss') {
>> >> >                         if (! isset($_GET['action']) && 
>> >> > BOLTexists('code.skin.rss')) $skin
>> >> > = 'code.skin.rss';
>> >> >                         else $skin = BOLTgetlink($BOLTcodePages, 
>> >> > 'skin');
>> >> >                         }
>>
>> >> > This will return the normal skin if code.skin.rss doesn't exist rather
>> >> > than a whole new skin. Seems the overall logic of this little code
>> >> > section (lines before and after) could be simplified, but this will
>> >> > work for now...  Does anyone remember why we have a print=true option
>> >> > here?
>>
>> >> > > Great, most of the issues with RSS seem to be solved, or at least
>> >> > > identified.
>>
>> >> > Solved?
>>
>> >> Well, a good portion of optimism shouldn't hurt... Let's say some
>> >> issues are solved. :)
>>
>> >> > > Is it possible to feed changed pages? Currently if I put a page into
>> >> > > my feed, it won't display as new in my feed reader when updated. I
>> >> > > have a similar page to BoltWire.com's download page, where I post
>> >> > > updates. But since I don't create a new page for each update, I wonder
>> >> > > how this can be reflected in the feed.
>>
>> >> > You should be able to do sort=lastmodified in the rssfeed function.
>> >> > Did that not work for you?
>>
>> >> Ah, this one is tricky, too. Yes, that does work. Though depending on
>> >> the feed reader you will see it or not. Some mark it unread, some give
>> >> a hint "updated" and some just update the retrieval time and "think"
>> >> the entry is the old one already downloaded. I guess BoltWire is not
>> >> to blame here.
>>
>> >> > > Thanks for reading!
>>
>> >> > Sorry it's not working as well as we'd like. We'll get there. It would
>> >> > be a fun problem to track down if I had more time today!!!
>>
>> >> Take your time! I think we already made quite some progress.
>>
>> >> Regards, Markus
>>
>> >> PS: Wished I was wrong with the BoltWire.com issue... ;)
> >
>

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