While we are at RSS... What about username + password protection of
feeds? I have a private site for which I would like to have a feed. Of
course, putting private pages to a public feed is not my intention.
Most feed readers seem to support authentication for feeds.

Regards, Markus

On Sep 21, 7:30 pm, Markus <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sep 21, 4:13 pm, The Editor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Markus <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
>
> > > First, it's definitely the newest script version. Also the searches I
> > > tried matched just two pages most of the time. The one I posted above
> > > _should_ match around 20 or 25 at most. But read on...
>
> > Do you have your site fully indexed? It should affect the
> > group=parameter, but if you are trying to do text/data/link, etc,
> > indexing is essential.
>
> I have put [(index)] into my footer.
>
> > > Lesson 1:
> > > One important information for the solutions page is that RSS might not
> > > work with MAMP or the like on your localhost. The same code that gives
> > > at least some RSS output on my server ends with an internal server
> > > error when used with MAMP offline. As Dan pointed out, some tools
> > > might be missing.
>
> > Possible, but not necessarily. I got the recent server errors online
> > because something in my online configuration setup triggered a php bug
> > that was not triggered offline. Nothing to do with apache--though it
> > did a lousy job reporting the error. And even then windows and linux
> > work differently in certain situations, so it could be anything. If it
> > was a missing library, I would think you would get a message in your
> > php error log for calling an undefined function. Have you checked your
> > error logs?
>
> Sorry, I forgot to check the logs when you first mentioned it. Indeed,
> every page hit gives this entry in the MAMP PHP error log:
> [21-Sep-2009 16:43:09] PHP Notice:  Undefined index:  errors in /Users/
> m/Sites/boltwire/barn/scripts/engine.php on line 17
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Lesson 2:
> > > Even when action=rsslist shows exactly what you want to feed, it is no
> > > guarantee that these pages will display in your RSS reader.
> > > Dan, if interested you can check out the following page with the login
> > > I gave you:
> > > rss.listOKfeedNotOK (rsslist OK, feed broken)
>
> > This is very strange. The critical lines in the rssfeed function are these:
>
> >         $pages = BOLTsort(BOLTsearchPageList($args, $zone), $args); // add
> > third false for no auth checking
> >         if ($_GET['action'] == 'rsslist') return BOLTdisplay($pages, $args);
>
> > You'll notice the action=rsslist option uses the exact same array of
> > pages  used later by the script to generate the rss feed. So unless
> > somehow one or the other cancels out some pages for some reason, their
> > output should be the same...  I'm not denying it, just seems strange.
> > Both start with exactly the same list of pages at least.
>
> > > Lesson 3:
> > > I might not notice when the page RSS was not saved correctly. I edit
> > > the page and save it. I get redirected to view the RSS page which is
> > > automatically opened in my feed reader. Since the RSS page is not
> > > displayed in the browser, the browser still displays the edit page
> > > from before. Any further edits using the "old" edit form won't be
> > > saved. Better remember which edit tabs you already used...
>
> > Yes, that could be a bit tricky.  :)  You could possibly try creating
> > a custom edit action like this: copy action.edit => action.rss.edit,
> > and add to the end of the form
>
> > [session nextpage {p}&action=source]
>
> > That way you should be able to check that what you saved is there now,
> > and get any messages you need. If it works, we could possibly add it
> > to the backup file.
>
> Yes, that works. Makes it much harder to use the same edit tab more
> than once.
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Lesson 4:
> > > It seems to be a misbelief that you can just put a search together
> > > that matches the pages you want to see in your feed, then change the
> > > function name to "rssfeed" and everything works. For example feeding
> > > all pages with a certain keyword does not seem to work. Dan, you can
> > > check:
> > > rss.keyword
>
> > This is true, but we could add that functionality perhaps.  And in
> > fact this could be our problem... This line in rss.php ~32 should be
> > changed from
>
> >         $pages = BOLTsort(BOLTsearchPageList($args, $zone), $args); // add
> > third false for no auth checking
>
> > to
>
> >         $pages = BOLTsearchPageList($args, $zone); // add third false for no
> > auth checking
>
> > The way it was written, with the new changes to the core search
> > function, the sort function gets called twice.
>
> Changing this line did not fix the feed. (It's enough to change
> rss.php in the plugins folder, right? As it seems not to be copied to
> the field.)
>
> > To try adding the other search criteria we need to replace that line
> > with this entire snippet (let me know if it works--we could polish
> > this up more nicely, and I'll update the script):
>
> >         global $outarray
> >         $outarray = BOLTsearchPageList($args, $zone); // add third false for
> > no auth checking
> >         if (isset($args['text'])) BOLTcheckNest1($args['text'], 'text', 
> > $args);
> >         if (isset($args['data'])) BOLTcheckNest1($args['data'], 'data', 
> > $args);
> >         if (isset($args['link'])) BOLTcheckNest1($args['link'], 'link', 
> > $args);
> >         $pages = $outarray;
>
> This breaks the whole field. But only if you don't notice the missing
> semi-colon in the first line. ;)
>
> This works! Just those pages containing the keyword are put to the
> feed. And "exclude" does its job too. Good work!
>
> > This would be cool because you could generate a rss feed of all the
> > pages that link to a page. IE, put /*[[rss]]*/ on a page and instantly
> > it gets added to your feed (with link=rss).
>
> Sounds incredibly useful and flexible!
>
> > > Some problems I reported might have been caused by my naive approach
> > > to start with some simple matching like this. From reading the
> > > solutions page I expected that "rssfeed" can be used with all the
> > > parameters of "search".
>
> > Let's see if we can't fix the code before we fix the docs.  :)
>
> Just in case... it was not meant to offend the editor of the docs. ;)
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Lesson 5:
> > > When using a page named "rss" (and not some lower hierarchy like
> > > rss.whatever), the following line is put into the edit field:
> > >http://www.domain.com/field/index.php?p=rss
> > > I think you won't see this when you use for example rss.blog. It would
> > > be a non-issue if the solutions page did not specifically say that you
> > > can use "rss" as the page name. :)
>
> > It should not do this anyway. And it just did it for me!  We have some
> > weird things going on here, Markus...  I'm very busy this week, but
> > I'll stick with you as best I can and try to work through it with you.
>
> > Another problem. I tried installing rss in a new field, didn't get it
> > to work, then uninstalled. Got a white screen. Traced it down to a
> > couple lines in engine.php that need to be rewritten:
>
> > ~1428 or so.
>
> >                 elseif ($pageArray[0] == 'rss') {
> >                         if (! isset($_GET['action']) && 
> > BOLTexists('code.skin.rss')) $skin
> > = 'code.skin.rss';
> >                         else $skin = BOLTgetlink($BOLTcodePages, 'skin');
> >                         }
>
> > This will return the normal skin if code.skin.rss doesn't exist rather
> > than a whole new skin. Seems the overall logic of this little code
> > section (lines before and after) could be simplified, but this will
> > work for now...  Does anyone remember why we have a print=true option
> > here?
>
> > > Great, most of the issues with RSS seem to be solved, or at least
> > > identified.
>
> > Solved?
>
> Well, a good portion of optimism shouldn't hurt... Let's say some
> issues are solved. :)
>
> > > Is it possible to feed changed pages? Currently if I put a page into
> > > my feed, it won't display as new in my feed reader when updated. I
> > > have a similar page to BoltWire.com's download page, where I post
> > > updates. But since I don't create a new page for each update, I wonder
> > > how this can be reflected in the feed.
>
> > You should be able to do sort=lastmodified in the rssfeed function.
> > Did that not work for you?
>
> Ah, this one is tricky, too. Yes, that does work. Though depending on
> the feed reader you will see it or not. Some mark it unread, some give
> a hint "updated" and some just update the retrieval time and "think"
> the entry is the old one already downloaded. I guess BoltWire is not
> to blame here.
>
> > > Thanks for reading!
>
> > Sorry it's not working as well as we'd like. We'll get there. It would
> > be a fun problem to track down if I had more time today!!!
>
> Take your time! I think we already made quite some progress.
>
> Regards, Markus
>
> PS: Wished I was wrong with the BoltWire.com issue... ;)
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