On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Justme <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Kevin, DrunkenMonk and Dan!
>
> Part of the problem is I don't know what I'm doing, and the
> documentation doesn't seem to answer my questions, but I'm learning...
Docs are always hard in open source projects like this. The people who
know stuff don't need or use the docs. And therefore don't usually
update them. The ones who use the docs, don't know exactly what to put
there. So they tend to stay a little static.
> I was so frustrated because when I would click on skin and type a
> slogan, description or keywords into the text filed boxes they would
> not save. However, I did get one word of the slogan to stick after
> repeating the steps over and over. Also the webmaster email saved
> from the beginning, but no luck with the others (frustration). After
> having nothing work as it appeared it should I found code:skin and
> removed $$slogan and typed the text in by hand. I also added style
> attributes to change the layout a bit and the title font. Now I know
> this is not the proper way to modify the wiki, but I got tired beating
> my head against the wiki-ways and it's documentation. In the
> documentation it says images can be added easily, but doesn't exactly
> say how, at least not that I can see. So I added the url for our logo
> image in the code:skin too.
BoltWire has gone through some pretty rapid development lately, and
unfortunately not all the plugins/skins have kept up to speed. The
skin action only works on the latest default skin, and other skins
designed to take advantage of it. So that could be why it's not
working. There's no problem hand editing code.skin and code.style.
That's the sure way to do it. Using code.snippets as a way to store
slogan, title, etc, is good because it will work on any skin with
$$slogan and $$title in it.
Oh, also, make sure you are using 3.17. Put {version} on a page to see
what you are using. The link on the home page was accidentally left at
3.15, and there were some problems with the action.skin page that have
since been corrected. It will work much better with 3.17.
To store images, do [^imagename.jpg^]. The little up arrows kind of
suggest file uploads... It will help if you copy the files first to
your fields "files" folder. Otherwise it will give you a link you can
use to upload your pix. You can also use a shortcut like this:
img:somefile.gif. But again, they should be put in the files folder
first. Also, make sure your images are all lower case names. We should
put up more documentation specifically for images. There are some
things about doing uploads that are important to know, and every body
likes pictures...
> I don't mind messing with the code, but without knowledge of how the
> whole thing is set up I'm spending a lot of time with trial and error,
> and I'm messing up the dynamic nature of the software. I know just
> enough about CMS's to get into trouble.
You should NEVER have to edit the core scripts in engine.php. If you
feel a need to, I can assure you there is another way to do what you
want. The problem with tinkering with those files, is your changes
will get lost every time you upgrade.
> I haven't found
>>> 'code snippets' or 'slogan:...'
> I am still getting lost when I'm looking for something specific I want
> to change.
There is a page called code.snippets. Just go to it in your url
www.mydomain.com/index.php?p=code.snippets and then edit it.
You can change values there directly whatever you want there directly.
To insert those into a page or into a skin, do $$field.
> I bet you all are right about the link to the forum - when it took me
> to a 404 I googled it and that link took me to a page that is still
> up
> - check it out http://www.boltwire.com/index.php?p=main.forum but is
> not 'working'.
Sorry for the link to it. I probably need to delete all the files. I
keep thinking one day I will upgrade the forum. But it is hard to find
time. All my forums work fine. Once you understand a bit how BoltWire
works, you can design any kind of forum you want, any way you like.
That's the unusual thing about BoltWire. Unfortunately, we need a good
dozen developers who are willing to take one or two key plugins (blog,
forum, etc) and really run with them, and keep them updated. Most of
our users right now are pretty handy do it yourselfers. BoltWire
attracts that type I guess, because it's designed to make that kind of
thing fun and easy. But you don't have to be a programmer. You just
got to learn the BoltWire syntax.
>>> Red question marks indicate links to content that does not yet exist.
> This is helpful... thanks.
>
> I have admin access, and I'm the only one playing with BW so far.
>
> I think a new skin will be necessary :-)
Part of your problems may be the non-default skin you are using. You
might stick with the basic skin until you get some content up, because
it at least works. :)
> I will post more specific questions and detailed info in the future.
> Thank you so much for your patience and help you guys are the best.
Feel free to post a list of how do I's on the mailing list. Someone
can point you to the right answers pretty quick. It won't take long
before you've got the hang of things.
Cheers,
Dan
P.S. Sorry for not getting back earlier, I usually take at least part
of the weekend off...
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