On Jan 6, 5:43 pm, The Editor <[email protected]> wrote:
> Markus, I just integrated your changes into the core. I did not check
> every page so I'm trusting your work was fine!  :)

Well, in that case better label the next one extremely
experimental. ;)

>
> Anything you questioned, I just ignored. I'm thinking our page is long
> enough. But if you want to press an item, let me know. I'm open. On
> the other hand, I'm not sure all the fancy messages with variables and
> functions in them will work properly. Let me know if there are some
> glitches.

Yes, it's easier to let time tell us if there are any quirks. I have
yet to see many of all those messages. :)

> I did redo the site.languages page a good bit. First I wanted to
> incorporate several items I missed that Danny report. Second I want
> the messages and system page replacements to be alphabetized. As the
> page gets longer, it gets harder to find things...

Good idea!

> I'll put this in the next release, along with some other changes...
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:47 AM, The Editor <[email protected]> wrote:
> > No, I appreciate the reminder. You put a lot of work into that and I
> > probably needed a reminder...
>
> > Cheers,
> > Dan
>
> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Markus <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Take your time! :)
>
> >> It wasn't meant to pressurize you in any way. Just wanted to make sure
> >> that it has not get lost.
>
> >> Best wishes,
> >> Markus
>
> >> On Jan 5, 11:39 pm, The Editor <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> I did get it Markus. I'm sorry--haven't had a chance to review it.
> >>> I'll try to get it into the next release. Maybe tomorrow. Just having
> >>> a hard time keeping up with everything at the moment. And there was a
> >>> major security issue I needed to plug pronto--so that had first
> >>> priority.
>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Dan
>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Markus <[email protected]> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Dan, have you received that email with the ready-for-translation
> >>> > system pages? I sent it to you on 12/11/09. Just wondering because the
> >>> > system files in 3.3.3 are unchanged.
>
> >>> > On Jan 5, 3:29 pm, The Editor <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Erlend Sogge Heggen 
> >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> Multipage copy/rename
> >>> >> > I never tried this functionality but it sounds really powerful. I can
> >>> >> > see how it has no place in the core, but I do hope it would stay
> >>> >> > around. I remember I once wanted to do some major renaming in a
> >>> >> > MediaWiki set up. Every page had to be done one-by-one, even when I
> >>> >> > just wanted to change the hierarchy from /oldparent/pagename to /
> >>> >> > newparent/pagename or /exemptparent/samepage/pagename to /samepage/
> >>> >> > pagename.
>
> >>> >> Actually, as it is written in the core, it is somewhat limited. There
> >>> >> is however an extremely powerful plugin I wrote called tree, kind of
> >>> >> from the old dos days: rentree, deltree, etc.  There's also a more
> >>> >> powerful fileadmin plugin, which can do even more. They are both in
> >>> >> the systems tools section of the solutions area. These are another
> >>> >> reason to remove this capability out of the core. We have readily
> >>> >> available plugins that are far superior.
>
> >>> >> >> WikiWords (case sensitive page names)
> >>> >> > I'm very glad you're not stuck up about WikiWords like some other
> >>> >> > wikis are, but it is undeniably a useful feature just the same. I
> >>> >> > think WikiWords is the sort of feature that could be made to 'light
> >>> >> > up' a little in the plugins repository. I'm talking about the concept
> >>> >> > that is being discussed with Wordpress right now, about 'Caonical
> >>> >> > Plugins':
> >>> >> >http://wordpress.org/development/2009/12/canonical-plugins/
> >>> >> > I for one really like the term 'Classic plugin'.
>
> >>> >> WikiWord is actually quite a misnomer in BoltWire. Unlike the normal
> >>> >> CamelCase approach to wikiwords, in BoltWire setting wikiwords to true
> >>> >> simply gives you the option of saving case-sensitive pages names.
> >>> >> Which essentially eradicates many of BoltWire's case insensitivity
> >>> >> features.  How it got connected with wikiwords is not clear in my
> >>> >> recollection, but it goes back to the very early days of BoltWire
> >>> >> 1.xx.  We had an individual who strongly desired the ability to save
> >>> >> case insensitive page names. At this point however, I believe we have
> >>> >> a situation where BoltWire is better served by removing an option and
> >>> >> being more consistent in our philosophy. Case insensitivity everywhere
> >>> >> possible.
>
> >>> >> Note there already is a wikiwords plugin, in the links section that
> >>> >> explains this a bit more and gives one example of a simple wikiwords
> >>> >> markup. If we thought camelcase links like SiteAuthView =>
> >>> >> [[site.auth.view|+]] would of value, it would be a simple plugin. I
> >>> >> would be happy to code it one day. Just with our hierarchical system,
> >>> >> wiki words don't make perfect sense. Or at least, there's multiple
> >>> >> ways to set them them.
>
> >>> >> >> Full toolset replacements
> >>> >> > What does this entail exactly?
>
> >>> >> This allows you to put a completely custom conditions.php,
> >>> >> functions.php, commands.php script in your config folder and have
> >>> >> these used instead of the core functions. My reason for deleting this
> >>> >> is that we have several other ways of customizing these things,
> >>> >> particularly: toolmapping, and site.auth.functions/commands pages.
> >>> >> There's also the problem of system bugs caused by script dependencies
> >>> >> that can get messed up. It would be nice if all these functions were
> >>> >> completely independent, and maybe we can get to that point, but I
> >>> >> don't think it is the case now. Particularly with the functions.
>
> >>> >> Cheers,
> >>> >> Dan
>
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