Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:

> Information is not knowledge.
and neither of them are illegal, except in the
singular case of the Digital Milineum Copyright Act.
which is exactly what I've been saying is evil.
could you throw any more red herrings around?

> I know how to do a lot of things, including how to make a bomb since I
> have long possessed a copy of "Anarchists Cookbook". However, it is
> illegal to do just about everything contained in that book. Possessing a
> gun is legal [ with a permit ], shooting someone in the head is not.

and owning the book is legal. 
putting bomb making instructions on the web is legal.
 
> DeCSS is a program with no other purpose on the planet than to steal and
> pirate someone elses property. This is not covered by free speech, rather
> some penal code somewhere that I'm sure I'd get bored reading.

its covered under the DMCA which enforces the WIPO treaty.
and I say the DMCA is unconstitutional.

good god, you own a book that tells you how to make
a bomb with common kitchen chemicals, with enough
simplicity that grade school kids can (and have) done it.
and you believe that the book should be protected by
the 1st amendment.

yet a DeCSS program and FAQs/READMEs describe with 
enough simplicity that grade school kids can (and have)
rip a DVD. and this is so irreprehensible that it
must be outlawed. but then perhaps it would be OK to
put the DeCSS code in printed form in a book and make
it scanner friendly.  

thirty minutes to a working BOMB is acceptable,
but thirty minutes to copy a DVD will end the world.

the line of logic escapes me.

>There needs to be a way to make sure that people 
>get compensated for their work so that they can 
>feed their families and keep on creating 

this from a person on an open source mailing group
who actually puts a lot of time and effort into Perl?
and yet, perl survives as open source. copyright is 
really only used to prevent other people from coming
in and trying to put a proprietary copyright on it.
and the community lives, and thrives, people make
money doing training, coding, support or whatever.

yet you only see a santa clause machine as legally 
viable when we reach "Star Trek" levels of purity and
advancement.  Linux and Perl etc are all variants of
the santa clause machine, and they are thriving.

Greg

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