Thanks Greg, Yeah, it's easy to get side-tracked on an issue like this.
Fighting for Perl's cause is kind of fresh in my mind these days. Mostly because I feel like I have to _fight_ for it. At least lately. I've been explaining things about Perl to those who know nothing about it and therefore think is is a stupid and useless language (because if it wasn't stupid and useless they would know more about it). ugh. It would just be nice if we could do something to make it a little bit clearer to the mass public the power and importance of Perl. And thus help Mike and Nameless Coporation. Even if we did have a bunch more doofs walking around with useless certificates, at least more people would know about Perl. And then I wouldn't need to explain things so much ;) Again, thanks. --Alex > Alex Brelsfoard said: >> So.... no Perl certification? > > Alex, > > You're argument got derailed by a non-sequitor. > > Manager Mike works at Nameless Corporation > and Mike doesn't want his projects using Perl. > > Your argument was that if some company provided > "certification", then Mike might allow Perl on > his projects. > > That may actually be a valid claim/argument. > > The responses you got against certification > were "no one who has a certificate knows anything" > and so on. Nothing to do with whether or not > certification will convince Mike to allow perl. > > Now, once Mike allows perl on the project, > if the engineering manager, Eve, then decides > to hire only programers with "certification", > then that's a separate problem. One would assume > that Eve would have a slightly better grasp > on reality than Mike, and so wouldn't put so > much stock in certification to make/break a > hiring decision. > > If Mike does allow perl because of "certification" > and Eve is a smart enough engineer/programmer > to know not to put too much stock in "certification" > and simply hires the best programmers, then the > worst that will happen is an occaisonal dunderhead > will get hired with "certification" and think he > knows everything. > > But at that point, you as a programmer on the project > get to use perl, and you just have to put up with > a moron coworker. I've lost count of how many places > I've worked, but everywhere I've been, there's been > a moron. So it isn't any worse than any other job, > except you get to use perl. > > So, if Certification convinces Mike to allow > perl, and Eve isn't an idiot, it's an overall win. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Boston-pm mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm > _______________________________________________ Boston-pm mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm

