I'd rather learn Python from scratch than continue to use PHP for any but the simplest projects.
I was optimistic about PHP5's beefed-up C++-like object orientation, but then I tried to use it. It makes C++ seem intuitive. I still maintain that PHP wins the convenience/approachability award for its jovial bloat. There are many 90-second PHP scripts (and 90- minute PHP apps) that save enough human-time to offset PHP's flaws. PHP is LAMP-lite and LAMP-disposable. That's not regrettable. It has it's place. But it's also gluttonous and arguably quite American. Fast Food Nation, etc. I'm excited about Catalyst and have cobbled it into a web app with Mason, Class::DBI and client-side AJAX code. It works, but it still doesn't capture the fluidity and immediacy of rich-client applications like Basecamp, (from 37signals, the same people who invented Ruby on Rails). I'm apparently not very graceful with Catalyst. Still, there seems to be a lot hand-wringing in the Catalyst community over some simple stuff, like serving static files. Catalyst sits rather heavily in its throne. In its own way it is no less obese than PHP, er, full-featured than PHP. Anyway, it's encouraged me to look a bit deeper into Ruby. OK, what are the key factors in determining which languages will get mind-share? We had this discussion several months ago. Is Python or Ruby robust enough as a system glue and _also_ syntactically approachable? Is that the opportunity here? er, the threat here? I would be curious to hear from someone who actually knows Python/ Ruby and Perl. Which one would he/she rather use to accomplish typical tasks of varying scopes? Forget benchmarks and keystrokes for a moment. Which one would he/she rather use? Bogart On Nov 6, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Bill Ricker wrote: >> From what I see, one is a language and one (php) is >> > a tool.` > > This thread and Gnat's comment on Use.perl re Python > got me thinking about the future of scripting and > dynamic languages, based on what I'd heard at the BLU > meeting lately. > > The cheap web app, LAMP-LITE, may be Perl's history > and PHP's future, but I suspect the real threat to > Perl's future is Python. > http://use.perl.org/~n1vux/journal/27453 > > Tom, you were at the BLU Ubuntu meeting also -- Did > you hear Mako the way I heard Mako? > > -- Bill > > > > __________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > _______________________________________________ > Boston-pm mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm > _______________________________________________ Boston-pm mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
