Asking everyone who's used any perl ide to share could be a stone-soup meeting sometime.
A good programmer's editor that can colorize syntax and autoindent and hop to matching or enclosing braces is half the battle. Most of us who "don't use ides" have that. A graphical debugger front end *is* nice. I used O'Reilly's original one (pre Komodo), it really helped on certain issues. (It's a gentle introduction to the perldb too, same as gdb is to dbx - but likewise, you have to eventually fully grok the line oriented db to get full benefit from the graphical db)). But so many of my scripts wind up being run via SSH that I don't really miss it when I could *actually* use it. Bill Ricker, typing with thumbs ... ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: L-boston-pm <[email protected]> Sent: Thu Aug 16 01:00:52 2007 Subject: [Boston.pm] refactoring tools and IDEs http://www.sdtimes.com/fullcolumn/column-20070815-01.html ...Ruby’s growing up. Although not fully mature compared with languages such as C# and Java, there now exist some solid Ruby IDEs. ... Obviously, I like Ruby. I recommend it without hesitation for administrative tasks and small projects. However, as with any relationship, there’s a difference between casual and committed. This was my first project approaching what I consider "real application" size - rapid development of several thousand lines of code in dozens of classes and the inevitable contortions of logic and data that define programming in the real world. ... In general, the lack of refactoring support in the IDE was an acute pain point compared with developing in, say, C# with ReSharper. While we Perl developers tend to scoff at those who use IDEs, I often wonder if we're missing out on a productivity boost as a consequence of using a non-mainstream language. (Of course there are IDEs for Perl. Several. Though you rarely hear them recommended by Perl developers. And I'm left wondering whether they really offer a complete enough implementation of modern conveniences to provide the same kinds of productivity boosts developers of other languages get from their IDEs.) On the other hand, those of us who have successfully worked on numerous 10K+ line applications in Perl with nothing but a text editor (and of course UNIX command line tools, including Perl itself, which come in handy for certain refactoring operations) might consider the authors stance to be a tad wimpy. -Tom -- Tom Metro Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA "Enterprise solutions through open source." Professional Profile: http://tmetro.venturelogic.com/ _______________________________________________ Boston-pm mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm _______________________________________________ Boston-pm mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
