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> Whilst I agree with what you said (indeed liked the analogy!) can you > really see ISPs willing dropping clients? The ability to hold a client > to account is nice but then they lose that revenue to another ISPs > that would not hold them accountable. My ISP blocks all customers when any kind of infection is detected. I forgive them for it, for I can see that it has good intentions, however when I got blacklisted, and was unable to reach some lazy sysadmin for a full month, imagine how pissed I was to find out that I had been denied access due to a "windows optix infection". I ran a freebsd box at the time. I still have not come to the bottom of what technically may have set them off, but the blacklisting was a repeat offense until I switched to Linux. Now, I don't like the gun analogy in the slightest. Every gun owner knows its potential to kill, however I can assure you that not many people know that their family gaming computer has a trigger, that is, the capability to become a gateway for cybercrime against others. You see, many people put security by the wayside because they feel that they have nothing to protect on their machine, however if the vast majority of windows users woke up to the perspective of the true nature of botnets, that they would make a greater attempt to avoid becoming part of one. That is just an assumption however. We need to increase the publics understanding of the problem. They can't do anything about it but whine to their ISP's, government, and software vendors, and you need to understand that is what NEEDS to happen for this problem to go away. Start attacking the problem by its cause! We can hunt them for now, which is a very important duty in my opinion, however we need to set the goal that eventually, hopefully, we won't need to hunt them anymore. - -- Clinton Mielke eFraud Division - The Shadowserver Foundation -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE4cTHHnEJPoUEMnERAp+AAKCXAPijUSngfQPQYplm45aI8p2wxACgtsd0 R/rVl84UrP3L10eV/TSzKUw= =H4DL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ To report a botnet PRIVATELY please email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All list and server information are public and available to law enforcement upon request. http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/botnets
