I'm not thrilled with the prospect of paying 500 dollars for a replacement battery. We can decide whether or not we want to buy a given product. There were obviously problems with another competing product or they would have continued to offer a user replaceable battery. I would settle with things the way that they are rather than to buy a unit only to find out that they are able to offer a newer board with a battery replacement later that possibly has problems. Over all, I've been happy with the battery on the braillenote. As a number have wisely observed, this is not a laptop. If you don't like the battery that they choose to use, don't buy the product or spent money on the upgrade. It is as simple as that. I wish our adaptive products were cheaper. We can wish in one hand and spit in the other and see which one fills up the fastest.

Regards, everyone.  Have a great holiday.At 11:12 AM 7/3/2005, you wrote:
The battery fits in there now? So it should not be hard to compartment it so
at least a user can change the darn thing.


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Once again, we are not speaking about apples, & apples.  The BN family has
battery life far supperior to a laptop, which gets 6/8 hours at the maximum.

The BN is able to run for well over 18 hours!  Having a replaceable battery
may be a good idea, but now we begin to talk about extra bagggage that has
to be carried?  Maybe I can find a good source of luggage, with wheels, to
accomodate all this stuff?

Bruce

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Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:59 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] Risks Indeed!


> Why is it that nearly every commercial manufacturer of notebook
> computers offers user replaceable batteries?  The more power a computer
> draws, the more important it is to have a user replaceable battery.
> Recently, I saw the following quote from a message by Mike May on the
> Gps-Talk list:  "We have enhanced the manual route creation software.
> You can now designate manual waypoints as Straight, Left or Right. You
> can add custom descriptions like 4-way intersection or "slight bend in
> path."This makes routes created across a campus or in the woods
> extremely versatile."
>
>    What hapens when you're in the woods and your nonuser replaceable
> battery goes south?  Belly Up?  Dead?  Runs out?  Sure, maybe Freedom
> Scientific didn't get it right the first time, but at least they
> tried.  From what I can determine, Humanware has no product for which
> one can replace the battery.
>
>    I saw a question the other day from someone asking what it would
> cost to get a battery installed at one of the consumer conventions.
> Then I saw a price of $500.00.  This price doesn't even deserve a
> comment.
> Jonathan, as you said, "Remember, these devices draw much more power
> than does a mobile phone or MP3 player."  I totally agree. In which
> case, wouldn't it be even more important to have a replaceable battery?
>
>    And another thing.  I know that the Braille Sense is new and has
>    some bugs, and doesn't yet have the popularity of the braillenote
>    family.  But by golly, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm
>    giving Dan and Doug credit where credit's due.  At least they
>    are starting out on the right track.  They're giving us the
>    independence and portability of  having a replaceable battery.
>    Something Humanware has never done, whether it be the Keynote
>    Gold, Braille Displays, or the Braillenote family of Products.
>
>    The more battery power any item consumes, the more important it is
>    to be able to replace the battery.  Remember Mike's example of the
>    walk in the woods?  You might also be on a downdown
> street in a major city when that nonreplaceable battery goes dry.  If
> you're unfortunate enough to be at the aCB convention, you'd
> better hope you have enough cold water until you're rescued by UPS.
>
>    It boggles my mind how a company can come up with a
>    device with so many enhancements as the Braillenote, but yet be so
>    hamstrung when it comes to common sense.  No, not Braille Sense, but
> common Portability Sense.  Is it portable or isn't it?
>
>    How about it guys?  Did it really cost $500 when you got those
> batteries replaced at the consumer conventions this summer?
>
>
> Keith Bucher
>
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