Hello Terry and list,

If you try to put place markers in a .brf file, .txt file or any other file type other than Keysoft, they won't stay, at least, that is my experience. I confirmed this with my M-power by going into a .brf document. I put three place markers in that document. So long as I was in that document, I could utilize the place markers. When I was about to close the document, I was advised that the document has been modified, save as a Keyword Document? If I were to type Y for yes, it would ask for the document name and it usually says the name of the original document without the .brf extention. If you except this filename, your document will be saved as a Keyword Document but you won't lose the original document. If you open the new Keyword Document, your place markers would still be there, ready to use. They wouldn't be in your old .brf document. If you should have a NLS E-book, keep the original files and save the volume you are reading as a Keyword Document. Put in a place marker somewhere in the document you are reading and when you exit the document, you will be asked whether you would like to save it as a Keyword Document. Once this is done, you can put up to 26 place markers in your volume that you are reading. If these aren't enough, you can delete the markers you no longer need and make new ones. When I'm editing a newsletter for brailling, I use place marker A for the contents and the rest of them indicate the beginning of the different articles in the newsletter. They are a big help when editing the newsletter for brailling. I did all of this in the word processor but think you can put in place markers in the book reader as well provided you are dealing with a Keyword document. If in the book reader and you are reading a .brf file, you will find that the place markers aren't supported in the .brf file but they are supported in the Keyword document. I think too one can use the translation menu to convert a .brf file to Keyword but I think by doing a simple modification of the document will get you what you might want more easily. There are so many ways to accomplish some things with a BN. It might be easier to modify the document in the Word Processor.

HTH

Jim Aldrich
e
 At 07:46 AM 09/13/2005 , you wrote:
David;
Can these place markers be used on books?  I have a fealing the answer is
no.
Terry Powers


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Hi Chris,
  You can already set your place markers.  From within your document, press
backspace with d (read with d), and you will be prompted with, "Define place
marker.  Letter?"
  To jump to a place marker, press space with j (read with p), and you will
be prompted, "Jump to place marker.  Letter?"
  To delete a place marker, position your cursor to the location of the
marker and press backspace with dots 3-6 (control with comma), to delete.
  Hope this helps.
David

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>From: "Chris Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:05:41 -0400
>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] New Technical Author @ HumanWare

>This brings us to another suggestion.  Why not give us the ability to set
>place markers.
>----- Original Message -----
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>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:24 PM
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] New Technical Author @ HumanWare


>> Hi Jonathon;
>> For the life of me, I could not find a section in chapter 15, on book
>> reader.  I like to keep my place on the machine and be able to look up a
>> command in the handbook.  That is why I wish they were in alphabetical
>> order.  After reading a chapter, the command list is my most helpful
tool.
>> I find it easier to look it up in braille and not lose my place in my
>> document.
>> Why do you think NLS would put out a BRF copy with out page markers.  The
>> page, column will not work.  There are numbers throughout the book, but
no
>> symbols before the numbers.
>> Why would the BT read His as just dot 6, and then go on reading?
>> Thanks.
>> Terry Powers


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>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] New Technical Author @ HumanWare


>> Hi terry, if you are looking for help with a KeySoft application beyond
>> what is available from the context sensitive help when pressing space
with
>> H in that application, don't forget that you can use the index in the
User
>> Guide.  Press backspace and ENTER with H on a BT, and you will be invited
>to
>> press T for Table of Contents or I for Index.  I just tried pressing I
for
>> index, then pressing B repeatedly until I got to the Book Reader Topics.
I
>> then press ENTER and am presented with a handy menu of topics on the Book
>> Reader.

>> Jonathan Mosen
>> BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager
>> HumanWare

>> DDI: +1-925-566-9265
>> http://www.humanware.com


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