Ah, Sarai
Now I have to admit I was wrong about that demo document. Yup. It had
two manually inserted spaces at each paragraph point.
My excuse is that as I was so new with everything at that point, I
didn't notice that. LOL. But I guess I learned a lot in exploring
options in an attempt to fix a problem that wasn't there.
I'll still stand by the idea that paragraph boundary and formatting
defined as new line should also indicate a paragraph, but maybe that
would conflict with something else. Lists? I won't go there.
So, I'm off to wash the egg off my face. Humanware can keep smiling at
us when we're the problem. Smile.
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] paragraphs
Go check the default settings on that demo document. I tried it
indenting at 0 and manually putting the paragraph spaces after
indenting
twice and couldn't get it to work.
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Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [Braillenote] paragraphs
It will work right with indent set to 0 if you use two returns.
If paragraph movement functions only work correctly with the indent
first line set to 2, then why is the default 0? I found it odd that
the
Demonstration document provided on the mPower said it was created
using
the default settings and the paragraph reading mode worked there.
Hmm.
When reading that document, they only had one carriage return. If I
interpret that right, then they had one return and a first line indent
of 0. But that certainly doesn't work for me. Makes no sense to me.
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:21 AM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] paragraphs
I'll try it with two lines and indent set to 0 and see if I get what
you
do. It works with paragraph indent set to two in the layout mode of
the
document. Let me try it the other way
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:14 PM
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Hi Sarai
Yes, that seems to be the only way to do it. But if I manually put
in
the spaces, then they extend the blank space on the display and I
don't like that as I only have the 18-cell. I'll try the layout
indent first
line to 2 and see if that makes it more readable for my liking. But
as
Steve rightly said, having to put two carriage returns in isn't the
best
solution either as it puts blank lines in an embossed document. So,
I
gather there are ways to do this, but I still think it needs a bit of
fixing from Humanware in the next release. Again, that paragraph
boundary of N for next line should be enough to tell it that a single
carriage return marks a paragraph. Just my thoughts on for me what
is
a
bit of a frustrating issue.
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] paragraphs
Hey Jean,
I haven't been keeping up with your problem so let me see if I'm
right. You can move by paragraphs in other Braille documents, but
can't in ones
that your creating, right? If so, try this:
1. Translation set up options, put paragraph boundary to indented or
blank line. The second setting put interpret larger boundaries as
paragraphs, put no. Make sure your asky translation options also
say
paragraph format.
2. Create a blank document. If you have the format settings as
indent
first line of paragraph as 0 unchanged, you can change it to two, or
leave it alone, and hit enter, putting the two spaces manually as
required. Usually this is what I do unless it's a majorly formal
document I'm working on
I just tried it and I had success with changing the layout to indent
first line of paragraph to two.
Let me know if any of this works. Contact me off list for more
help..
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [Braillenote] paragraphs
Hi Terri
Thanks for the idea, but it didn't fix my problem. I've even tried
setting the default file type to creat to a plain braille file, BRF,
with the same results. Within a braille document I create, I can
only
move by paragraph if I use two returns between paragraphs or put in
two manual spaces. Ug, this shouldn't be that hard to solve.
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] paragraphs
Go to the forward translation list and look for "paragraph." Type
the command for hard return then press the space bar twice.
Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign
AAT9PX, California
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Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 5:55 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] paragraphs
Jean, I can tell you that if you use one carriage return and space
twice after that, you'll see a paragraph. I'm going to see if it
can
be set up as an option.
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