Hi Jim, that's correct. You could use a USB or Bluetooth qwerty keyboard with a BrailleNote or VoiceNote mPower. Very cool.
Jonathan Mosen BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager HumanWare DDI: +1-925-566-9265 http://www.humanware.com "James Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] net> To Sent by: "Braillenote List" braillenote-bounc <[email protected]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc .com Subject RE: [Braillenote] translation 05/08/2005 07:40 p.m. Please respond to Braillenote List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .humanware.com> I think the M-power may solve some of this since I recall someone saying either a USB or bluetooth keyboard could be used in conjunction with the M-power. I'm not totally certain of this but if this is the case, anyone with an M-power has the best of all worlds I'd think. Jim Aldrich At 02:14 PM 08/05/2005 , you wrote: >I know this comment will put me in deep waters that my headache should >fear me to tread today. I know better, but here goes. >One of the thoughts I have had many times is that everyone should own a >Qwerty Keyboard. I can feel you flinching. I see some terrible spellings >and key combinations come up in many e-mail. It's because of the great >Translation--grin! I've even thought about the possibility of changing my >perkin style keyboard to a QT. The cost is what stops me. >It seems as though people forget how to spell when they write in grade >two. I've already commented too much, so I'm going to behave, because I >could get us off-topic, and I don't feel like getting in trouble today. > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 16:05:29 -0500 > >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] translation > > >Terri is so absolutely correct here. > >Frankly, if you want to use the Braillenote to prepare documents that > >are intended to be read by print readers, you are headed for these kinds > >of problems. > >Proofreading the final product would be essential. > >Certainly teachers who have no knowledge of Braille will not know the > >rules for Braille, heck more than half of the teachers of the "visually > >impaired" don't know them. > >I would go so far as to say that, unless you are willing to put the time > >and effort into seriously proofreading a braille-to-text translation, > >you should either create your document on a Personal Computer, or create > >on the Braillenote using computer Braille. > >If you choose to do the latter, you will not have to worry about letter > >signs being misinterpreted and the like. > >It is not an easy thing to do, but it can be done. > >Duxbury simply cannot anticipate everything that might happen when > >Braille is translated back to text. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri > >Pannett > >Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:08 PM > >To: Braillenote List > >Subject: Re: [Braillenote] translation > > > >That's up to the braillist to fix. You should read your documents > >before > >you submit them to a teacher. You just can't expect a program to do > >everything for you. > > >Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign > >AAT9PX, > >California > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Nicole Torcolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 4:49 PM > >Subject: Re: [Braillenote] translation > > > >> I undersand that it is part of the rules, but shouldn't it be > >fixed? > >> Someone might not know about this problem and translate and print > >without > >> reviewing. Not all teachers know, much less understand, about Braille > > >> errors, and ar going to wonder when your papers come out reading but. > >can. > >> do. every. instead of b. c. d. e. If you were to do this on a test, > >you > >> could get the entire test wrong because of it. > > >> Nicole > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 2:26 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] translation > > > >>> That is according to the rules for the braille code. Letters in > >>> parenthesis don't need letter signs and letters followed by periods > >don't > >>> need letter signs. If you want to translate the braille document > >into > >>> text, you will have to add the letter signs before you translate it. > > >>> Don't blame the BrailleNote or its translation program. Duxbury's > >>> primary design is to translate text into braille and it goes by the > >rules > >>> for the braille code of the U.S. or U.K. The original purpose of the > > >>> program was to allow sighted people to translate print documents into > > >>> braille. > > >>> But translating from braille into text can be done with Duxbury, but > >you > >>> must edit the braille document yourself if you want letters to be > >>> translated as initials and not contractions. This is because braille > > >>> symbols have more than one meaning and the software program has to > >decide > >>> which meaning you want. But software cannot replace the human brain. > > >>> Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign > >>> AAT9PX, California > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Nicole Torcolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:55 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] translation > > > >>>> If a letter is followed by a period or a parenthesis, the > >BrailleNote > >>>> leaves out the letter sign. Then, when you translate it back to > >text, > >>>> it translates that letter as a word, such as c. as can. If the > >letter > >>>> is capitalized, then it translates it correctly as the letter, but > >>>> letters aren't always capitalized. > > >>>> Nicole > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:03 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] translation > > > >>>>> The BrailleNote uses Duxbury Braille translation software to > >translate > >>>>> from text to Braille and vice versa. Duxbury always translates > >>>>> according to the BANA rules or the BAUK rules. If the rules don't > >>>>> require a letter sign, then Duxbury won't put one in. Generally, > >>>>> translating from text to Braille has less errors than translating > >from > >>>>> Braille to text. > > >>>>> Duxbury does so well translating from text to Braille I'm surprised > >you > >>>>> would believe some letter signs are missing. What example can you > >give > >>>>> to illustrate that Duxbury leaves out letter signs when translating > > >>>>> from text to Braille? > > >>>>> Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign > >>>>> AAT9PX, California > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Nicole Torcolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:39 PM > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] translation > > > >>>>>> It is interesting because you can't even open a text document, > >ask > >>>>>> to review the options and tell it to translate it, edit in grade > >2, > >>>>>> and then tell it to not translate it when it saves. It's as > >though > >>>>>> the BrailleNote doesn't recognize it's own language. If it > >requires a > >>>>>> letter sign to make it a letter, shouldn't the BrailleNote put > >that > >>>>>> letter sign when it translates? > >>>>>> Also, does anyone remember the Braille Translation Table from > >an > >>>>>> earlier version of keysoft? I think, if it still existed, that > >might > >>>>>> have been a way to fix the problem. > > >>>>>> Nicole > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "Rhonda Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:02 PM > >>>>>> Subject: re: [Braillenote] translation > > > >>>>>>> Hi, Nicole: > >>>>>>> One of the best ways I've found, especially if you are converting > > >>>>>>> Braille to Text, especially when writing a letter is to put the > >>>>>>> letter sign, then a capital, and the letter. You shouldn't have > >any > >>>>>>> mistranslation issues that way. The text to Braille translation > >can > >>>>>>> be tricky, because a B can equal but, if it's not written > >correctly. > >>>>>>> In a text, I make sure my letter is capitalized, followed by a > >>>>>>> period. It is really interesting. > > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>From: "Nicole Torcolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:55:18 -0800 > >>>>>>>>Subject: [Braillenote] translation > > >>>>>>>> I have noticed that when the BrailleNote translates from text > >to > >>>>>>>> grade 2, > >>>>>>>>it leaves certain things, such as letter signs, out in certain. > >>>>>>>>Then, when > >>>>>>>>you go to translate it back into text, it doesn't come out right. > > >>>>>>>>Some > >>>>>>>>examples are: > >>>>>>>>Leaving the letter sign out causes a letter to become a word. > >>>>>>>>The BrailleNote thinks a minus is com. > >>>>>>>>The BrailleNote interprets letter sign s as ness. > > >>>>>>>>Nicole > > > > >>>>>>>>___ > >>>>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > >>>>>>> ___ > >>>>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > >>>>>> ___ > >>>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > >>>>>> __________ NOD32 1.1183 (20050729) Information __________ > > >>>>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >>>>>> http://www.eset.com > > > > > >>>>> ___ > >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > >>>> ___ > >>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > >>>> __________ NOD32 1.1185 (20050801) Information __________ > > >>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >>>> http://www.eset.com > > > > > >>> ___ > >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > >> ___ > >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > >> __________ NOD32 1.1186 (20050804) Information __________ > > >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >> http://www.eset.com > > > > > >___ > >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > >___ > >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
