Hi Terry, I am more concerned with the noise of the spacebars than with the split spacebar. If I am in a meeting I don't want to disturb the speaker by hitting the spacebar repeatedly. that would be more my worry. I hate noise as it is. The BN is quieter by far. Sounds like you've worked hard at NIH. Keep up the good work! Isaac
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) wrote: > Hi Isaac and others; > I saw my first PK at last years convention. I had already gotten my BT and > gotten used to the keyboard. I might look at it again but I think I still > like the BT because of its spacious room. > I still can not understand why anyone would make 2 space bars. It sounds > like it would be more error proned. > I sure am glad I got in the BN family when I did. It took a lot of hard > work for NIH and me to get accepted into the CAP program. The good thing > about it is, if another blind person comes to work for NIH, our hard work > and perseverance will help another blind person. > Terry Powers > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Isaac Obie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:26 PM > To: Braillenote List > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] o t kelley Stanfield cashier > > > Terry, > Have you seen the PK? it doesn't have that many keys! the thumb keys or > navigation keys are at either end of the braille display. I think they're > rather neat! they take some getting used to though. <smile> > Isaac > > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) wrote: > > > I have another use for the BT, my chapter sells nuts each year and I used > > the BT to keep record of my orders, who had payed and every now and then, > a > > running total. I sold about $385.00 in nuts for my chapter. I have found > > passing out fliers and letting the people come to me with their purchases > > works the best for me. > > My BT 5.1 sure is a handy little tool and I would rather have the BT > > keyboard than the PK keyboard. To many keys can cause a lot of trouble. > I > > like my thumb keys. They are out of the way when I do not need them, but > > right there when I do. > > Terry Powers > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: richard Van Driel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:50 PM > > To: Estelnalissi; Braillenote List > > Subject: re: [Braillenote] o t kelley Stanfield cashier > > > > > > Hi Kelly, > > I'm also interested in how you do this, so send me one also. > > My email addie is at the "from" field, but here it is again so you can > have > > two chances to grab it. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > that's the fun thing with the bn, you can use it for so many different > > things. > > It's my bookreader, calculater, list maker, sometimes story creator and a > > whole lot more. > > > > Richard > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Estelnalissi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > > >Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:38:03 -0400 > > >Subject: [Braillenote] o t kelley Stanfield cashier > > > > >Dear Kelley, > > > > >I'm also very interested in how you are able to be a cashier. Please > > contact > > >me off list at > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >Thanks, Lissi > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Kelly Stanfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 7:54 PM > > >Subject: Re: [Braillenote] BN compared to PM > > > > > > >>I have always been a Braille user. My friend Craig and I used the fact > > >>that I'm a faster typer in Braille than on a computer keyboard in my > > >>justification for the BrailleNote when I was starting work in the > > >>elementary school. When I was in school, I used the early Blazie now > > >>Freedon Scientific note takers and had to put two spaces at the end of > > >>sentences. I love not doing that when I Braille! I've had to not lose > > >>that typing skill as I use a computer at home for e-mails, and at work > for > > >>typing things for my boss. It doesn't take much to switch between the > two > > >>ways of typing. When I'm at the Braille keyboard I use one space like i > > >>learned when I learned Braille as a child. > > > > >> By the way Terry, I'll send you a separate off list message about how I > > do > > >> my job as a cashier. I figured that the best way to go since it's off > > >> topic and you seemed the only one interested in how i do this. > > > > >> Kelly Stanfield > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] > > >> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:39 AM > > >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] BN compared to PM > > > > > > >>>I agree with you Karen. I love the BT. I do enough typing at work, I > > >>>love > > >>> the braille keyboard. the fewer keys the fewer errors! The commands > on > > >>> the > > >>> BN are very easy to understand. I am sure glad I got mine when I did. > > I > > >>> sure can not imagine anyone making a double space bar. It took me a > > >>> while > > >>> to get used to the slant of the keys, but I would not give it up for > the > > >>> world! > > >>> My sight is getting worse so I am slowly converting to just braille. > It > > >>> is > > >>> something we just have to accept. > > >>> Terry Powers > > > > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: Karen McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:25 PM > > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Braillenote List > > >>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] BN compared to PM > > > > > > >>> That settles it for me. I have always wondered about the difference > > >>> concerning the Braille displays in the two units. I'm a very fast > > >>> Braille > > >>> reader, and I would prefer the one with the better Braille display and > > it > > >>> wouldn't matter to me what else the other unit had to offer. That's > my > > >>> two > > >>> cents worth. > > > > >>> Karen > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: "David Truong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] > > >>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:50 PM > > >>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] BN compared to PM > > > > > > >>> Hi, > > > > >>> I actually have both units! A PM bx440 and a BN32. Personally I > > >>> prefer > > >>> the PM because I love the ability to script my screen reader and I > love > > >>> the > > >>> ability to experiment with third party products Such as Skype for > pocket > > >>> PC, > > >>> Resco Audio player Recorder, Pocket Player etc etc. I'm also able to > > try > > >>> a > > >>> range of compact flash cards ranging from fm radio tuner cards to > > Mobile > > >>> phone CF cards. Basically as long as the software on these CF cards > are > > >>> accessible and the third party software has drivers for the Mobile > 2003 > > >>> operating system, I'm good to go. But even if the software isn't > > >>> accessible, the Jaws scripting language can take care of that in most > > >>> cases. > > > > >>> Having said all of that, my Partner Robyn prefers the BN32 for it's > > >>> simplistic approach to the everyday tasks of Email, Web browsing, > > >>> contacts > > >>> management, database management and file management etc. Heck, she > just > > >>> loves Keysoft! She absolutely loves the Braille on the BN which I > have > > >>> to > > >>> say is much better than the Braille on the PM Braille displays. The > > >>> Braille > > >>> on the BN is a lot easier to feel than the Braille on the PM displays > > and > > >>> that's even with the PM Display set to 100% firmness. > > > > >>> Ah well, having both units has at least prevented any more domestic > > >>> arguments over who would have the use of a PDA for the day. Now she > > >>> takes > > >>> the BN32 to work and I've got the Pac Mate. Surely that can't be a > bad > > >>> thing. > > > > >>> David Truong > > > > >>> E-mail and MS messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>> Skype: blindboxer1967 > > > > >>> Home Page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/davidtruong/ > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Isaac > Obie > > >>> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:57 AM > > >>> To: Braillenote List > > >>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] BN compared to PM > > > > >>> Hi Susan, > > >>> I like the PM! I just don't like reading the manual! If someone sat > and > > >>> taught me the thing, I'd learn it very quickly! I've noticed this > > >>> already! > > >>> but I've not really had any one teach me the BN. I think I'd prefer > the > > >>> PM > > >>> if I had my choice. I think it's a power machine and it's really for > > >>> power > > >>> users. No offense meant, I wouldn't recommend the PM for the little > old > > >>> ladies and gentlemen of the world. <smile > > >>> Isaac > > > > >>> On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Susan Stageberg wrote: > > > > >>>> I agree with Jim bout learning the BrailleNote with very little > effort. > > >>>> I > > >>> had opportunity to thoroughly test a PacMate with the BT keyboard. I > > >>> found > > >>> the multi-layered commands very hard to remember from one time to the > > >>> next > > >>> and while I realize that the PacMate is a very sophisticated and > > powerful > > >>> little critter, it just never floated my boat. All this is to say > what > > we > > >>> all keep saying: this is really, really an individual thing. Not only > > do > > >>> different people have different needs when it comes to a portable > > device, > > >>> but different people think differently, and what seems logical and > > >>> intuitive > > >>> to one may be completely Greek to the next. PacMate comes under that > > >>> Greek > > >>> category as far as I'm concerned. > > > > >>>> Susie > > > > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James > > >>>> Aldrich > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:10 PM > > >>>> To: Braillenote List > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] BN compared to PM > > > > > > >>>> Hi Beth, > > > > >>>> What you say is so, but I can say from my personal experience I was > > >>>> doing > > >>> a > > >>>> great deal with my BN in a very short time after receiving it. I was > > >>>> able > > > > >>>> to feel very comfortable with it during a convention presentation. > It > > >>>> really doesn't take much to accomplish a great deal with a BN, VN or > > PK. > > >>> I > > >>>> think I could learn a competition product in time but it would take > > more > > >>>> time for me to do so. I agree! One eventually needs to find the > > >>>> patience > > > > >>>> to read any part of the manual. > > > > >>>> Feel free to write me privately about my next question if you wish, > but > > >>>> am > > > > >>>> curious to find out when you hope to decide on which notetaker you > will > > >>>> get? Was just wondering! > > > > >>>> Jim > > > > >>>> At 05:15 AM 06/02/2005 , you wrote: > > >>>>>Hi, all. I would like to point out that, no matter how intuitive a > > >>> system > > >>>>>is, there is still a large learning curve associated with it. You > must > > >>>>>read, study and learn the manual of the BN, just as you would the PM. > > >>> Beth > > > > > > >>>>>___ > > >>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > >>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > >>>> ___ > > >>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > >>>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > >>>> ___ > > >>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > >>>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > >>> ___ > > >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > >>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > >>> ___ > > >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > >>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > > > > >>> ___ > > >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > >>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > >>> ___ > > >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > >>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > > >> ___ > > >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > >> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > >http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > ___ > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >
