The book said paragraph mode at the beginning.
Any ideas. I have not tried it on the actual story. I was trying
to
advance by a large amount of space to find the beginning of the
book.
Find
chapter 1 did not work. When I finally got there, the word chapter
was not
there, just the number.
I tried page numbers and ended up in the contence.
Help. This is crazy.
Terry Powers
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From: Sarai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:43 AM
To: 'Braillenote List'
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower
Your paragraph commands will only work if the reading mode is set
to
paragraph. The reading commands change function when the mode is
set
to
lines or columns.
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Powers,
Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS)
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:23 AM
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Subject: RE: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower
Teri;
Did you see my problem with reading a book in paragraph format? If
it
is a listing, will that prevent the paragraph command not to work.
I
can not even get the find or surch for page, line or column to
work.
I
had a terible time making it to the first chapter in chicken Soup
for
the soul book 2. They did not use the word chapter. I tried
strait
numbers and ended up in the contence. I have written about this
before
and got no responce. Please help me out. space with f is find
space
with 1,2,6 is for page, line, column
Terry Powers
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From: pann1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 5:16 PM
To: Steve Speicher
Cc: Braillenote List
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower
Dear Steve and List,
I will try again to explain how to get paragraphs to work right.
Suppose you have a braille document opened. Each paragraph should
begin
with a hard return followed by two spaces. You want to translate
the
document into text and you want the paragraphs in the print
document
to
begin with two hard returns.
Go to the back translation options menu. You will be asked,
"paragraphs
in source document." You would press control enter to indicate the
hard
return and press the space bar twice to indicate the two spaces. I
don't know what the commands are for a BT keyboard. Now, cycle
through
the back translations list until you come to "paragraph." Press
control enter twice to indicate you want two hard returns in your
print
paragraphs. I don't know the BT commands. Exit and press y to
save
the
changes.
Suppose you have a text document you plan to translate into
braille.
Go to the forward translation options list. You will be asked
"paragraph in source file" If your text document paragraphs begin
with
two hard returns, then press control space bar or the equivalent BT
command until you get to "blank line." Now, cycle through the
forward
translations list until you get to "Paragraph." Press control
enter
spacebar spacebar or the BT equivalent command to indicate you want
the
paragraphs in the braille document to be a hard return followed by
two
spaces. Exit and save the changes.
If you want these settings to be the defaults for all your
documents,
be
sure to use the forward translation options and back translation
options
in the file manager menu.
Once you have set up these options, you will be able to open and
read
a
braille or text document using the paragraph commands.
Now, if you want the thumb keys to jump from one paragraph to
another,
you would go to the braille display options and look for thumb
keys.
There are three choices: up and down, sentence or line and
paragraph
or
section. Choose paragraph or section. Now your thumb keys will
scroll
from paragraph to paragraph.
I hope this helps.
Terri, Amateur Radio call sign, KF6CA. Army MARS call sign, AAT9PX
California
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Steve Speicher wrote:
Good morning, Jean:
Here are two approaches to the movement-by-paragraph issue.
1. As Dean mentioned, a blank line will cause the space-with-2,3
and
space-with-5,6 commands to work as you expect them two. But to get
a
blank line, you have to hit the enter key twice. One difficulty
with
this approach is that the blank line created in this way is honored
when
embossing and so wastes precious space on the embossed page. To
avoid
that problem, when you have finished editing the document and are
ready
to emboss, you could use the global find and replace to, so to
speak,
prepare the document for embossing by converting all occurrences of
the
double return to one return followed by two blank spaces. In the
embossed document, the single return followed by the two blank
spaces
will give you two-space indents at the beginning of each paragraph
but
will not skip a line between paragraphs. If you want to do some
more
editing, simply reverse the global find and replace to convert each
occurrence of a return followed by two spaces to two returns. In
the
find and replace operation, to produce the return character, press
space
with dots 2 and 6. You wouldn't need to convert back, since the
two-space indents created with the first global replace will now
make
the move-by-paragraph commands work as you expect. But you might
want
to convert back if you want that blank line between paragraphs for
the
printing (instead of embossing) of the document, or if you need to
do
more editing and just want to save a keystroke at each paragraph
break.
2. If you don't mind an extra keystroke at each paragraph break,
you
can
press enter then add two spaces at the beginning of the new line.
This
requires three keystrokes (return and two spaces) instead of two
(two
returns); but it makes the move-by-paragraph commands work as you
expect; and it avoids the need for switching back and forth between
two
versions of the document, one formatted for reading and one for
embossing. Of course, if you want to print the document rather
than
emboss it, you might want the blank line between paragraphs.
There's probably a third, better way to address the question. I
hope
one
of our fine listers will post it, as I, too, would like to know
what
it
is and how to format a document in such a way that it works equally
well
for printing or embossing..
At 07:24 PM 9/5/2005, you wrote:
Okay. As far as I can figure this out so far, here's what I think
is
happening with moving by paragraph with space dots 2-3 or 5-6. .
It
works fine in any text file. It works fine in any text file
converted
to braille. It works fine in the Demonstration file included in
the
General folder by Humanware. I gather this is a braille document
created just to play with. Notably, it has one carriage return to
separate paragraphs.
But I can't move by paragraph in any braille file I create. I've
experimented with as many combinations of reading mode and thumb
key
combos, but no go. It wants two carriage returns in a braille file
in
order to recognize it as a paragraph. All of the layout options
are
unchanged.
Anyone have any ideas? Could this be a bug or something in 6.2? I
would assume one shold be able to move by paragraph in a braille
doc
you create.
Jean
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