This can happen on a BT, especially to one who is a rapid Braillist.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen
McDonald
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:04 PM
To: Richard Hutcheson; Braillenote List
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] A Call for Better Keyword Support and other
things


Richard, I have this problem as well, especially when taking notes or 
dictation.

Karen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] A Call for Better Keyword Support and other 
things


> Jonathan, a while back you mentioned a function which possibly could 
> reduce mistyping errors on a BT. I have in mind a keystroke which
would 
> turn off chord commands typed accidentally on the keyboard when typing

> quickly. Any thing come of this idea? I find it is one of my most 
> troublesome problems when taking notes at a meeting. Thanks.
> Richard Hutcheson
> 387 Savage Farm Drive
> Ithaca, NY 14850
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> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] A Call for Better Keyword Support and other

> things
>
>
>> Hi Tom, and thanks for your great feedback. In this message, I'm
going to
>> attempt to reply to your points as well as the points made by others
in
>> reply to your original message.
>>
>> The issues you raise regarding Word support are issues which concern
us
>> greatly as well. KeySoft 6.11 made some strides to improving the
>> situation. Prior to KeySoft 6.11, we did not support files created in

>> Word
>> beyond 2000. Now, we support all versions of Word. that said, there
are
>> characteristics that cause the Word converter to fall over and crash
not
>> very gracefully, irrespective of Word version. These include the use
of
>> formatting such as tables and bullet points. This isn't a
satisfactory
>> situation to us either, and I have in fact authorised funding for a
>> project to research fixes to this issue.
>>
>> One of the issues we face is that we as blind people use our
BrailleNotes
>> quite differently from how many sighted people use their PDAs. A PDA
for
>> the sighted has a small screen, and it's not common for people to do
very
>> complex editing in that environment. For this reason, it may be that
the
>> conversion utilities available to us as part of what comes with
Windows 
>> CE
>> need to be replaced with a third party product that will offer much
more
>> advanced Word support. We're actively investigating this now, but at
this
>> stage it's too early to give any kind of indication as to when you
might
>> see the results of this. However, this is one of the nice things
about
>> KeySoft. We can take the bits of Microsoft code that work for us, and
>> replace others that offer more functionality. We've done this for
example
>> in the case of our Media player which streams more formats than
Pocket
>> WindowsMedia Player, and with our Download Manager.
>>
>> I would have to take issue with those who have described the feature
set
>> of KeySoft 7 as fluff. BrailleNote and VoiceNote mPower is now the
only
>> portable product in the market offering you a choice of speech
engine. We
>> have a powerful database manager already being used to assist people
with
>> everything from running their businesses to cataloguing home
inventory.
>> The fraction functions in the calculator are a big feature for
students.
>> While much as been made of the games, keep in mind that a huge number
of
>> BrailleNotes find their way to the education sector. The text
adventures
>> assist with literacy because they encourage kids to use the machine
more.
>> They also assist with orientation, because most of these games use 
>> compass
>> directions, teaching blind children to retrace their steps and
assisting
>> them to develop a sense of spatial awareness. And yes, they're also
good
>> fun. The changes to Bluetooth are particularly huge in the education
>> market because of the visual display functionality. The FM radio is
>> consistent with our intent, over time, to have the BrailleNote
replace as
>> many of those other devices you have to carry around with you as a
blind
>> person who travels.
>>
>> All that being said, you'll get no argument from me about the
substantive
>> issue you raise, and we are certainly actively working on the issue.
>>
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager
>> HumanWare
>>
>> DDI: +1-925-566-9265
>> http://www.humanware.com
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tom Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 03/02/2006 02:57 p.m.
>> Please respond to
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>>
>>
>> To
>> "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
>> cc
>>
>> Subject
>> [Braillenote] A Call for Better Keyword Support and other things
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi list and Humanware support staff,
>>
>> There are times when I have to vent and get something off my chest,
and
>> this
>> is one of them.
>>
>> Today I encountered two problems with a Word document that I
downloaded
>> from
>> the Project Assist web site in connection with a course that I'm
taking.
>>
>> First, after downloading the document to my PC and transferring it to
a 
>> BN
>> Classic running Keysoft 6.11 build 26, I attempted to open the file
in
>> Keyword, at which time I got the "review options?" prompt. So far, so
>> good,
>> but when I pressed Enter on that prompt I was told that the file was
not 
>> a
>> recognized Word document.  I re-saved the file on the PC as a Word 97
>> file,
>> transferred that one, opened  it and it worked fine.  As it turns
out, I
>> couldn't open the original file until I did a 1-2-3 reset, then all
was
>> well.  However, that led to a second problem.
>>
>> The Word file in question contained a number of web addresses which I
>> needed
>> to visit in order to complete a class assignment.  Though I could see

>> them
>> quite clearly when viewing the Word file on the PC, they were omitted
>> entirely from the document when viewing it in Keyweb. I was unaware
that
>> Keyweb wouldn't display embedded hyperlink fields in a Word document,
so,
>> frankly, I was a little surprised, and, a tad bit annoyed.
>> My Braille Note is on its way back to me, having been upgraded to an
>> MPower
>> which should be running Keysoft 7, and I'm really excited about that.
>> Having
>> heard about all the neat functionality built into Keysoft 7 and the 
>> MPower
>> platform, I can't wait to take the unit for a spin.
>>
>> However, I need to reiterate and expound on something that I've been
>> saying
>> for a long, long time. Humanware development managers have been very
>> responsive to the needs and wants of the customers, and I extend a
hearty
>> thumbs-up for their efforts thus far to enhance the functionality of
the
>> product offering.  Many folks, myself included,  asked for a faster
>> hardware
>> platform and got it, a newer version of Windows CE and got it.  Folks
>> asked
>> for enhanced media player support, streaming audio, database
>> functionality,
>> and the list goes on, and all of that is here now, and that's great!
>>
>> But what about the long-standing issues that still need to be
addressed?
>> Humanware needs to recognize and remember that there's a significant
>> percentage of folks within the user population who, like myself, use
the
>> Braille Note for education and business as well as pleasure on a
>> day-to-day
>> basis, so special consideration must be given to ensuring that those
>> applications that can be used for education and business have the
best
>> possible support that the platform will offer.  This means that
Keyword,
>> for
>> example, needs to be able to handle any Word document version that's
>> thrown
>> at it, and that in the interest of being fully and seamlessly
integrated
>> into education and business-related activity, it needs to, among
other
>> things,  be able to handle fancier formatting such as tables without
>> crashing and handle markup such as embedded hyperlinks without
omitting
>> the
>> associated information.  It also means that those memory glitches
which
>> cause critical documents to mysteriously disappear into the bit
bucket
>> need
>> to be isolated and dealt with in no uncertain terms.  Yeah, I ran
across
>> that one a couple of weeks ago and let me tell ya, folks, re-creating
my
>> data wasn't much fun.
>>
>> These issues still haven't been fully addressed in years, and it's
become
>> apparent that those of us who are concerned about them just haven't
"made
>> enough noise" by submitting formal requests to Humanware development
or
>> the
>> support team.  So I urge  those who feel as I do, stand up and be 
>> counted.
>> Voice your concerns on the list yet again, and write to Humanware
support
>> directly as I'm doing at this very moment, so that Humanware
development
>> managers can see the numbers and know that we're out here clamoring
for
>> resolution of these issues.
>>
>> Okay, time to get off my soapbox.  No flames, please. See y'all
later.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
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