Hi Hilda,
I don't complain about games that I do not use on my Braillenote either but I think it is time for Humanware to take the next step and give us a good alternative program for keeping track of financial matters! Thanks for your response!
Virgie and Hoshi
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Hi Paul and Virgie,
You rode just what I was thinking!
I don't use any of those thinks and I've still have to pay for that and most of all I don't complain!!!
Please feel free to write me off-list if you deem it necessary.
Thanks.
If you have any further queries pertaining to this message, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Regards, Hilda.
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Just my point, Virgie. I don't play those games either. I don't use the fm
radio. I don't need a statistical calculator, but I will pay for the next
upgrade just like the rest of you so I can get the new file manager. There was nothing in the last upgrade that I needed or wanted. And just the file manager in the next one, but I will upgrade anyway because you can't skip an
upgrade and just wait for the next one.
Sure. I can use excel, but I'd rather not if at all possible.
I'd rather have something easier like pocket quicken or money talks adapted
for the braille note.



Paul Henrichsen
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UNDERWOOD
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the next upgrade

Hi James,
I am one of those people who is forced to use Excel also, however, I do not think that Excel is the best tool for financial matters! I think both kinds of programs are needed here. For instance, I do not want or play the games
in Braillenote but I do not criticize those who do want it and yet I am
forced to pay for something that I will never use!  Just my thoughts and
observations!
Virgie and Hoshi
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Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 11:58 PM
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Paul,

I think you could have condensed those fifteen or so messages down to
three, goodness!

Having said that, I think a totally different aspect of this
discussion has been neglected!  Like it or not, we must deal with .pdf
or .XLS files in some way or at some point!  Both of these file types
are widely used and we unfortunately must deal with them!  I know very
little if anything about spreadsheets, yet I've been asked to make
braille hard copies of some of our state organization's financial
matters.  This certainly is a dandy challenge for a person who barely
knows how to read a spread sheet to put it into braille in a form that
might make sense to someone who understands them.  That is a dandy
challenge!  My newer computer has XL and I can get an idea of the
layout of the spreadsheet and maybe make some sense out of what I
think I see there.  Thanks to XL, I'm able to at least find columns,
and specific data within those columns but getting this from my PC to
braille and make as much sense and do so efficiently really is a
seemingly impossible task!  Heaven Forbid I'd need to reenter all the
data by hand myself!  I use my M-power to braille what I do much of the
time.
I wish there was a simple, efficient way to interpret the data within
the spreadsheet and have it available in hard copy braille very
quickly so it could be sent to those who request the information
within that spreadsheet. That is my immediate need whether I know what
I'm talking about or not.  It would be nice to simply read the
spreadsheet on my M-power and make some sense of it.  Having money
management programs or calculators are nice but how much nicer it
would be if we could import a spreadsheet and get the information
quickly without much effort and a person could take more time to study
the data within the spreadsheet rather than spend so much energy
trying to figure a way to place it in a format which makes sense to
those who understand spreadsheets.  Tasks like this make me cringe!
I'd rather run away rather than face the task at hand!  I truly hate
this kind of thing! Is there a way to make this donting task a bit easier
and maybe a bit more satisfying?

Jim Aldrich


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 4:55 PM
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upgrade


Hi, Mike. I suppose it is only vitally important for those people
where the Braille note is their only computer or for those who want
their financial data such as their checking account or credit card
balance with them on the go.



Paul Henrichsen
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 2:19 PM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the next
upgrade

I suppose it is "picking a nit," but though the suggestion might be a
useful
feature to a lot of people, calling it "vitally important" is more than
hyperbole!


----- Original Message -----
From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:28:22 -0400
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the
next upgrade

Hi Rusty,
This is an excellent suggestion and I agree that it is something
that most
of us would like to see for our BrailleNotes.
Virgie and Hoshi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rusty Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the next
upgrade


Hi folks,
I believe that keysoft NEEDS a financial management component
like
Quicken.
Most sighted people keep a log of their checks. Many keep a
budget sheet
to
track expenses and expendatures ETC.

Some one is bound to answer this by saying that there's a
calculator and a
database program and that this should be enough. I'm not savi
enough to do
the leg work to do the math, go from one to the other.

I hope that some one can harness the power of the bn to create
an
application where we can simply and easily enter these figures,
categorize
them, automatically perform the calculations to let us know how
much we
are
spending and saving on a weekly, monthly and yearly basis.
It would even be cool if the BN had built in formulas to help us
calculate
interest, convert measurements, other simple tasks.

I'm not a math wizzard, I need something to help me do these
things. An
economics major a finance expert could probably make a list of
the
features
we'd need, but I think that if we could just have a BN version
of quicken,
we'd be ahead of the game.

I think these things would make our lives much easier.

Thanks for reading!
Rusty


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