Once my machine arives , I'll gladly jump in with both feet and help wherever I can. shane
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:50 PM To: Braillenote List Subject: re: [BrailleNote] temp solution: I've finally found what's going on! Kandi, You sound like Vicky Collins (it was through her and my observation and analysis that my hypothesis on download issue was proven to be correct). If anybody is interested in this matter, you can join in. Posts from HumanWare engineers are greatly appreciated. Thanks. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: kandi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Braillenote List <[email protected] >Date sent: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:45:16 -0500 >Subject: re: [BrailleNote] temp solution: I've finally found what's going on! >All right. I plan to record (in writing) every minute detail of >what I find out and what I do to find it out. >Kandi (spelled with a K and an i), and my cane Fred >My Halloween Group: groups.yahoo.com/group/all_halloween >"Meat's meat, a man's gotta eat!" (Motel Hell) >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: Joseph Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: Braillenote List <[email protected] >>Date sent: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:34:23 -0700 >>Subject: re: [BrailleNote] temp solution: I've finally found >what's going on! >>Kandi, >>When you provide us with the information, be >>sure to record the size of the document in >>question, as well as the memory value (I'll >>need to analyze it myself over the next day >>or so, but I've got some academic stuff to >>finish). Thanks for your encouragement. >>P.S. This might turn out to be another issue >>with the memory management that I've found >>with the download problem. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: kandi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To: Braillenote List >><[email protected] >>>Date sent: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:30:23 -0500 >>>Subject: re: [BrailleNote] temp solution: >>I've finally found what's going on! >>>Hi Joseph, >>> Like you I noticed that keyword and KeyBook >>use more programming >>>memory, and just opening a large document >>causes the programming >>>memory used to almost double. I'll try to >>have an exact record >>>of how much programming memory and so on was >>used before and >>>after running the programs by tomorrow, and >>I'll forward it to >>>this list and to HumanWare. >>>Kandi (spelled with a K and an i), and my >>cane Fred >>>My Halloween Group: >>groups.yahoo.com/group/all_halloween >>>"Meat's meat, a man's gotta eat!" (Motel >>Hell) >>>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>I used to have a handle on life, then it >>broke. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: Joseph Lee >><[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To: Braillenote List >><[email protected] >>>>Date sent: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:03:37 -0700 >>>>Subject: re: [BrailleNote] temp solution: >>I've finally found >>>what's going on! >>>>Kandi, >>>>I've put Andy's address on the also sent to >>>>line. I'll also send my observations to >>>>Mickey in a moment. >>>>BTW, what was your observations? >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: kandi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>To: Braillenote List >>>><[email protected] >>>>>Date sent: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:54:45 -0500 >>>>>Subject: re: [BrailleNote] temp solution: >>>>I've finally found what's going on! >>>>>You're right. I never understood that >>>>before. Have you >>>>>forwarded your observations to humanware, >>>>Andrew Ridden or Mickey >>>>>Quenzer or anyone? >>>>>Kandi (spelled with a K and an i), and my >>>>cane Fred >>>>>"Meat's meat, a man's gotta eat!" (Motel >>>>Hell) >>>>>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>I used to have a handle on life, then it >>>>broke. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: Joseph Lee >>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>To: BrailleNote List >>>>><[email protected]>,andrew.riden >>>>@humanware.com, >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>Date sent: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:44:20 -0700 >>>>>>Subject: [BrailleNote] temp solution: I've >>>>finally found what's >>>>>going on! >>>>>>Dear list and HumanWare staff, especially >>>>>>Andy, >>>>>>I've finally found ouwhat is causing the >>>>>>leckup. It is determined and confirmed >>>>>>(through my observations) that a program or >>>>>>two eats (uses) a lot of memory. >>>>>>I've ran all the programs (KeyWord, KeyPlan, >>>>>>KeyList, KeyMail, KeyWeb, KSWMedia (Media >>>>>>Player), KeyBook, KeyPlus, KeyBase, and the >>>>>>IF emulator), checking the memory value each >>>>>>time I run and switch to particular program. >>>>>>So far, I've found two causes: >>>>>>1. It seems that KeyBook tends to eat a lot >>>>>>of memory (probably KeyWord is included in >>>>>>this category since Book Reader is the >>>>>>read-only version of KeyWord). While >>>>>>browsing through programs, I've found that >>>>>>Book Reader tends to eat around 512k of >>>>>>memory. >>>>>>2. Also, when a large document is opened, it >>>>>>causes the program to eat a bunch of memory >>>>>>as well. This fact is observed when a large >>>>>>document (more than 128k of text) is opened >>>>>>using KeyWord and/or KeyBook, particularly >>>>>>KeyBook. >>>>>>3. It is also confirmed that KeyWord and/or >>>>>>KeyBook tends to eat three times more memory >>>>>>than the file that is opened (for example, a >>>>>>document is around 128k and it is opened by >>>>>>KeyBook. The memory usage is around 400k or >>>>>>more.). And it eats more memory when a >>>>>>braille document is opened. >>>>>>Procedure: >>>>>>1. From Main Menu, go to Support Info mode >>>>>>with Space with O/Space with I (FN plus >>>>>>O/READ plus I). >>>>>>2. Check the memory value with Space with >>>>>>I/READ plus I. >>>>>>3. Run Wordprocessor by selecting >>>>>>wordprocessor. >>>>>>4. Repeat steps 1 and 2, this time go to >>>>>>Options Menu directly from the application. >>>>>>5. Run Planner and repeat steps 1 and 2. >>>>>>6. Run Address List, Email, Internet (you >>>>>>must open a site), Media Player (you must >>>>>>have a file playing), Book Reader (do this >>>>>>twice: once when you are at the open prompt, >>>>>>and second, when a file is opened; this >>>>>>should also be performed with the >>>>>>Wordprocessor), Scientific Calculator, >>>>>>Database Manager (you must select at least >>>>>>one database), Games (you must have at least >>>>>>one game running), and check the memory value >>>>>>each time you open the applications mentioned >>>>>>above. >>>>>>7. Then, switch to the applications >>>>>>presented above, and check the memory value >>>>>>each time you are switching to a application. >>>>>>You'll find that KeyWord and KeyBook >>>>>>(Wordprocessor and Book Reader, respectively) >>>>>>uses a lot of memorw. >>>>>>Note: for Wordprocessor and Book Reader, you >>>>>>must condchmt the trial one more time: once, >>>>>>you must open a short document from both >>>>>>applications, second, you must open a long >>>>>>(large) document from both applications, and >>>>>>third, open a short document on one of the >>>>>>programs and the large one on the other (for >>>>>>example: short document in KeyWord and long >>>>>>document in Book Reader). >>>>>>I know that these instructions may sound >>>>>>complicated, but when you execute (carry out) >>>>>>these instructions step by step, you'll come >>>>>>across the same conclusion as I did. 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