Hi Joleen, I might have misaddressed the email enclosed. So here it is again. Eugenio > ----- Original Message ----- >From: Eugene Manfrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Braillenote List <[email protected] >Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:54:07 -0500 >Subject: re: [Braillenote] Braille Music Notation on the BN
>Hi Joleen, > I am quite ignorant concerning many of the BrailleNote features and when I > try to learn how to use them utilizing the User Guide which is very good, I'm > not always successful. Translating or "creating a BRF file" as you stated in > your email enclosed, or any other translation process is one of those > features that I can't seem to understand. Could you explain the process to > me? > Thank you in advance. > Eugenio ar----- Original Message ----- >>From: Joleen Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: Braillenote List <[email protected] >>Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:06:49 -0800 >>Subject: [Braillenote] Braille Music Notation on the BN >>Hi, >>I use my BN to create braille music for playing chimes. I put 4 measures >>on a line because they fit well within the 32 cells. I number the first >>measure of each line so that I can easily find where our director wants us >>to start playing next. Sometimes it requires that I hold two chimes in one >>hand until I have memorized the music. When I sent my BN in for repairs, I >>embossed each hymn on my blazer. I don't remember exactly why now, but I >>chose to create a .brf file because the Keyword braille document was >>wanting to work on my work in some way. >>Our chimes director does not know braille music, or braille for that >>matter, but he e-mails me a code for the print music that goes like this: >>4/4 Key of C >>Notes B5 and C6 >>He then notes when I play with the following key: >>r 1 = whole rest >>r2 = half rest >>r3 = dotted half rest >>r4 = quarter rest >>r8 = eighth rest >>For the actual notes, he uses the same numbers for the values and preceeds >>them by the alphabetic letter representing the note. >>Chime music is easy to write because I only have a few notes and we are >>beginners. >>Anyway, he says it is easy for him to convert the print music to this >>code. I then convert the code to braille music notation. It is a little >>tricky to "touch read" the music until I get it memorized. but it works for >>me. I strap the BN around my waist while I play and read. >>I hope this helps someone. >>Joleen >> At 10:37 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote: >>>Dear Eugenio, >>>Yes, I did create some of my music files using the BN. You must turn off >>>speech and create a .brf file and type the braille music using six-key >>>entry. If you are using a QT keyboard, the s d f and j k l keys are used >>>to make the six dots. In order to be sure you can import the file to DBT, >>>use manual hard returns by pressing the enter key. >>>Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Manfrini" >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:52 PM >>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>Hi Terri, >>>> I'm very curious to know since I am a musician and composer; you or >>>> someone couldn't have created the music you mentioned from the >>>> BrailleNote, am I right? If you did that would be fantastic. >>>> Eugenio >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>>>>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:21:20 -0800 >>>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>>I have heard that this problem occurs with all notetakers, not just the BN. >>>>>The reason is the work processors in the notetakers don't generate hard >>>>>line >>>>>returns which can be read by other programs. To get around this, a person >>>>>must put the hard returns in manually. >>>>>If your file has both music and words in it with a line of words followed >>>>>by >>>>>a line of music, then the file should import into DBT correctly, because >>>>>there are manual hard returns in the file. >>>>>Also, when you open a file which has both music and words in it like I >>>>>described above, be sure to open the file in line format and save it in >>>>>line >>>>>format when you close the file. >>>>>Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:26 PM >>>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>>>The question you should be asking is this: >>>>>>How do files created using Duxbury work on the Braillenote? And, how do >>>>>>files created using a Braillenote work when using Duxbury. >>>>>>The translator is not the issue. The issue is Keyword. If you create a >>>>>>.brf file using Duxbury, you will be able to read it just fine using the >>>>>>Braillenote. However, if you create a .brf file using the Braillenote >>>>>>and import it into Duxbury, your results can be quite frightening. One >>>>>>of my co-workers used the Braillenote to transcribe some music into >>>>>>Braille. When she brought it into Duxbury, it was a disaster. She >>>>>>described it to me like this: "it was a 20 page word!" no line breaks, >>>>>>no indication as to where anything began or ended. >>>>>>I am not advocating any note taker over another, but if the primary >>>>>>purpose for purchasing a note taker is that you are going to use it to >>>>>>create files which can subsequently be embossed using Duxbury you will >>>>>>have your work cut out for you. >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FunGuy >>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:10 AM >>>>>>To: Braillenote List >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>>>Hi Rick: >>>>>>Terrific question! Let me start by saying that my bias is toward a >>>>>>member of >>>>>>the Braille Note family for your school district. There are several good >>>>>>reasons which I will list and I will also suggest some questions you >>>>>>might >>>>>>pose to vendors and others knowledgeable in the field. >>>>>>First, at this time, the Braille Note family has the largest installed >>>>>>base >>>>>>by far! That matters because bug fixes and good support are dependant >>>>>>on >>>>>>the size of the population a company like this serves. >>>>>>Second, I believe you will find that the Braille translator used in the >>>>>>Braille Note family is Duxbury. I know that this is not the Translator >>>>>>used >>>>>>in the PacMate. In fact, this would be a serious concern were I making >>>>>>this >>>>>>purchase for school children. Why the PacMate uses a different >>>>>>translator >>>>>>is beyond the scope of this message, but as a pure bases of comparison, >>>>>>this >>>>>>may be enough of a concern to rule out the PacMate. >>>>>>Third, the premise of the PacMate is using commercial software. What >>>>>>Freedom Scientific doesn't address well is who will pay for the cost of >>>>>>developing the set files(scripts) for the commercial software. Believe >>>>>>me, >>>>>>that is no small matter so that piece of the argument in favor of the >>>>>>PacMate is mute to say the least and disingenuous to say the most. If >>>>>>you >>>>>>accept this point, I would once again remind you of my first point about >>>>>>the >>>>>>size of the installed base. >>>>>>Fourth, the Braille Note family uses a token system to indicate print >>>>>>formatting. As a life time Braille reader, I can tell you that this is >>>>>>by >>>>>>far the best system for relating to print formatting. >>>>>>Now for some questions you might ask to further clarify the issues. >>>>>>Rather >>>>>>then asking if the files can be transferred (I'm sure they can with all >>>>>>3) I'd >>>>>>ask how the print format information is conveyed to the Braille reader. >>>>>>I >>>>>>think you will find that the token system in the Braille Note family is >>>>>>the >>>>>>best by far. >>>>>>Hardware is a big deal! It is also a matter of personal taste. I hope >>>>>>you >>>>>>are buying units with a Braille display. If so, you might just want to >>>>>>ask >>>>>>a few of the potential users which display seems most natural and >>>>>>comfortable. I would caution you in that regard that a display that is >>>>>>refreshed by pressing router buttons in a location where they can easily >>>>>>be >>>>>>confused with other buttons is a recipe for trouble. It will slow down >>>>>>Braille reading particularly in young people. >>>>>>Finally, I would look at the history of manufacturers in terms of >>>>>>cannibalizing there own products by forcing customers to buy new >>>>>>hardware by >>>>>>unnecessarily obsoleteing the old hardware. This will hurt your >>>>>>district >>>>>>in the long run. I trust something here is helpful. >>>>>>Alan Holst >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Rick Boggess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] >>>>>>Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:54 PM >>>>>>Subject: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files >>>>>>>I am sorry for the earlier message which I forgot to edit to reflect >>>>>>the >>>>>>>appropriate product name. The message should have read as follows; >>>>>>>I'm looking at notetakers for our school system. I would appreciate >>>>>>>hearing >>>>>>>from those with experience transferring Word and Duxbury files to and >>>>>>from >>>>>>>the BrailleNote. Is this possibel? Does formatting remain in tact? >>>>>>>Rick Boggess >>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>>>Version: 7.0.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.4/563 - Release Date: >>>>>>12/2/2006 >>>>>>>___ >>>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>___ >>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>___ >>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>__________ NOD32 1902 (20061205) Information __________ >>>>>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>>>>http://www.eset.com >>>>>___ >>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>__________ NOD32 1902 (20061205) Information __________ >>>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>>http://www.eset.com >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>___ >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
