Hi Joleen,
I might have misaddressed the email enclosed. So here it is again.
Eugenio
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Eugene Manfrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:54:07 -0500
>Subject: re: [Braillenote] Braille Music Notation on the BN
>Hi Joleen,
> I am quite ignorant concerning many of the BrailleNote features and
when I try to learn how to use them utilizing the User Guide which is
very good, I'm not always successful. Translating or "creating a BRF
file" as you stated in your email enclosed, or any other translation
process is one of those features that I can't seem to understand. Could
you explain the process to me?
> Thank you in advance.
> Eugenio ar----- Original Message -----
>>From: Joleen Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>>Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:06:49 -0800
>>Subject: [Braillenote] Braille Music Notation on the BN
>>Hi,
>>I use my BN to create braille music for playing chimes. I put 4 measures
>>on a line because they fit well within the 32 cells. I number the first
>>measure of each line so that I can easily find where our director wants us
>>to start playing next. Sometimes it requires that I hold two chimes in one
>>hand until I have memorized the music. When I sent my BN in for repairs, I
>>embossed each hymn on my blazer. I don't remember exactly why now, but I
>>chose to create a .brf file because the Keyword braille document was
>>wanting to work on my work in some way.
>>Our chimes director does not know braille music, or braille for that
>>matter, but he e-mails me a code for the print music that goes like this:
>>4/4 Key of C
>>Notes B5 and C6
>>He then notes when I play with the following key:
>>r 1 = whole rest
>>r2 = half rest
>>r3 = dotted half rest
>>r4 = quarter rest
>>r8 = eighth rest
>>For the actual notes, he uses the same numbers for the values and preceeds
>>them by the alphabetic letter representing the note.
>>Chime music is easy to write because I only have a few notes and we are
>>beginners.
>>Anyway, he says it is easy for him to convert the print music to this
>>code. I then convert the code to braille music notation. It is a little
>>tricky to "touch read" the music until I get it memorized. but it
works for
>>me. I strap the BN around my waist while I play and read.
>>I hope this helps someone.
>>Joleen
>> At 10:37 AM 12/6/2006, you wrote:
>>>Dear Eugenio,
>>>Yes, I did create some of my music files using the BN. You must turn off
>>>speech and create a .brf file and type the braille music using six-key
>>>entry. If you are using a QT keyboard, the s d f and j k l keys are used
>>>to make the six dots. In order to be sure you can import the file to DBT,
>>>use manual hard returns by pressing the enter key.
>>>Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Manfrini"
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:52 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files
>>>>Hi Terri,
>>>> I'm very curious to know since I am a musician and composer; you or
>>>> someone couldn't have created the music you mentioned from the
>>>> BrailleNote, am I right? If you did that would be fantastic.
>>>> Eugenio
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
>>>>>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:21:20 -0800
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files
>>>>>I have heard that this problem occurs with all notetakers, not just
the BN.
>>>>>The reason is the work processors in the notetakers don't generate
hard line
>>>>>returns which can be read by other programs. To get around this, a
person
>>>>>must put the hard returns in manually.
>>>>>If your file has both music and words in it with a line of words
followed by
>>>>>a line of music, then the file should import into DBT correctly, because
>>>>>there are manual hard returns in the file.
>>>>>Also, when you open a file which has both music and words in it like I
>>>>>described above, be sure to open the file in line format and save it
in line
>>>>>format when you close the file.
>>>>>Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:26 PM
>>>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files
>>>>>>The question you should be asking is this:
>>>>>>How do files created using Duxbury work on the Braillenote? And,
how do
>>>>>>files created using a Braillenote work when using Duxbury.
>>>>>>The translator is not the issue. The issue is Keyword. If you
create a
>>>>>>.brf file using Duxbury, you will be able to read it just fine
using the
>>>>>>Braillenote. However, if you create a .brf file using the Braillenote
>>>>>>and import it into Duxbury, your results can be quite frightening. One
>>>>>>of my co-workers used the Braillenote to transcribe some music into
>>>>>>Braille. When she brought it into Duxbury, it was a disaster. She
>>>>>>described it to me like this: "it was a 20 page word!" no line breaks,
>>>>>>no indication as to where anything began or ended.
>>>>>>I am not advocating any note taker over another, but if the primary
>>>>>>purpose for purchasing a note taker is that you are going to use it to
>>>>>>create files which can subsequently be embossed using Duxbury you will
>>>>>>have your work cut out for you.
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FunGuy
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:10 AM
>>>>>>To: Braillenote List
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files
>>>>>>Hi Rick:
>>>>>>Terrific question! Let me start by saying that my bias is toward a
>>>>>>member of
>>>>>>the Braille Note family for your school district. There are
several good
>>>>>>reasons which I will list and I will also suggest some questions you
>>>>>>might
>>>>>>pose to vendors and others knowledgeable in the field.
>>>>>>First, at this time, the Braille Note family has the largest installed
>>>>>>base
>>>>>>by far! That matters because bug fixes and good support are dependant
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>the size of the population a company like this serves.
>>>>>>Second, I believe you will find that the Braille translator used in the
>>>>>>Braille Note family is Duxbury. I know that this is not the Translator
>>>>>>used
>>>>>>in the PacMate. In fact, this would be a serious concern were I making
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>purchase for school children. Why the PacMate uses a different
>>>>>>translator
>>>>>>is beyond the scope of this message, but as a pure bases of comparison,
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>may be enough of a concern to rule out the PacMate.
>>>>>>Third, the premise of the PacMate is using commercial software. What
>>>>>>Freedom Scientific doesn't address well is who will pay for the cost of
>>>>>>developing the set files(scripts) for the commercial
software. Believe
>>>>>>me,
>>>>>>that is no small matter so that piece of the argument in favor of the
>>>>>>PacMate is mute to say the least and disingenuous to say the most. If
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>accept this point, I would once again remind you of my first point
about
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>size of the installed base.
>>>>>>Fourth, the Braille Note family uses a token system to indicate print
>>>>>>formatting. As a life time Braille reader, I can tell you that this is
>>>>>>by
>>>>>>far the best system for relating to print formatting.
>>>>>>Now for some questions you might ask to further clarify the issues.
>>>>>>Rather
>>>>>>then asking if the files can be transferred (I'm sure they can with all
>>>>>>3) I'd
>>>>>>ask how the print format information is conveyed to the Braille reader.
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>think you will find that the token system in the Braille Note
family is
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>best by far.
>>>>>>Hardware is a big deal! It is also a matter of personal taste. I hope
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>are buying units with a Braille display. If so, you might just want to
>>>>>>ask
>>>>>>a few of the potential users which display seems most natural and
>>>>>>comfortable. I would caution you in that regard that a display that is
>>>>>>refreshed by pressing router buttons in a location where they can
easily
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>confused with other buttons is a recipe for trouble. It will slow down
>>>>>>Braille reading particularly in young people.
>>>>>>Finally, I would look at the history of manufacturers in terms of
>>>>>>cannibalizing there own products by forcing customers to buy new
>>>>>>hardware by
>>>>>>unnecessarily obsoleteing the old hardware. This will hurt your
>>>>>>district
>>>>>>in the long run. I trust something here is helpful.
>>>>>>Alan Holst
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Rick Boggess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]
>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:54 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [Braillenote] Reading/Transferring Word and Duxbury Files
>>>>>>>I am sorry for the earlier message which I forgot to edit to reflect
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>appropriate product name. The message should have read as follows;
>>>>>>>I'm looking at notetakers for our school system. I would appreciate
>>>>>>>hearing
>>>>>>>from those with experience transferring Word and Duxbury files to and
>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>the BrailleNote. Is this possibel? Does formatting remain in tact?
>>>>>>>Rick Boggess
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