Michele,
Jose misinformed you. Gmail is strictly an email service offered by
Google.You can still use your ISP to connect to the Internet, and you can
use Gmail to access Google accounts using your BrailleNote.
Cheers,
Joseph 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele
Thredgold
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:15 AM
To: 'Braillenote List'
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Setting up a Gmail account on the BrailleNote

Hi Jose.  I heard of this on the vip-l list.  When you say GMAIL is like and
ISP, does it just off email services or internet as well?  I am currently
with Telstra BigPond broadband and find it a bit costly, but wouldn't want
to swap unless I saw had some good reasons.  After all, even if I joined up
for email with GMAIL, I'd still have to pay for my broadband connection and
downloads.  Isn't that right?

I have been following this discussion but still need some clarification on
other things too because I don't understand the internet that well.
I currently have ADSL broadband at home.  I have the wireless router (that
little square box with all the connections) and a wireless card for my BN.
What would be necessary for me to access email and the Internet outside of
home?  A lot of the stuff that Syndi and the others wrote about is still
going off my head.

As may have said the other day, I can't access the internet at TAFE because
of their lack of phone line connections and high security.  

If some real knowledgeable person wants to email me off-list, to save the
same old stuff being rehashed again and boring the blazers out of you all,
please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think I put the wrong address last time but this should definitely work.

Cheers!

Michele

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Lomeli on
BrailleNote MPower
Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 11:40 AM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Setting up a Gmail account on the BrailleNote


No Michele, Gmail is like an Isp.  But its free and its offered by google.
That's why its called Gmail.  Actually I never heard of e-mailing google
instead of doing a search.  Where did you find that out? Where did you here
that? Write back.
Jose Lomeli
Long Beach California.

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michele Thredgold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] Date sent: 
>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 05:16:18 +1030
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Setting up a Gmail account on the
BrailleNote

>Thanks for that clarification Joseph.  I think I've heard of
GMAIL
>before.  Is that the one where you email Google instead of doing 
>searches through their website?

>Thanks.

>Michele

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Joseph Lee
>Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 5:28 AM
>To: Braillenote List
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Setting up a Gmail account on the
BrailleNote


>Michele,
>Gmail is an email service offered by Google.
>Many people on this list use this service.
>Until yesterday, it was thought that Gmail
>was not accessible with KeyMail because it
>uses SSL, a form of encryption.  But thanks
>to Scott's and my findings, you can use it
>now.

>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Michele Thredgold"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "'Braillenote List'"
><[email protected]
>>Date sent: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 04:30:22 +1030
>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Setting up a Gmail
>account on the BrailleNote

>>Hi Joseph and others.  Pardon my ignorance
>but what is Gmail and how is
>>it different to ordinary emailing?

>>Thanks.

>>Michele

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>m] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
>>Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 5:00 PM
>>To: Braillenote List
>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Setting up a Gmail
>account on the BrailleNote


>>Grant,
>>Apparently, SSL is really implemented on SMTP
>>server.  I have used Gmail with the pop
>>server and it worked.  Setting the SMTP
>>server to another one will allow the email
>>client to send using Gmail account because it
>>is not going through SSL authentication.
>>In regard to current situation with Gmail:
>>there are two possible options.  First is to
>>use an alternative SMTP server, and second is
>>to implement SSL/TLS support into KeyMail.
>>Windows CE kernel does support SSL/TLS
>>connection, which is an easy way to implement
>>it via KeyMail (KeyWeb already supports
>>SSL/TLS).  For now, until SSL is implemented
>>in KeyMail, the only way to go is to use
>>alternative SMTP server.
>>HTH,
>>Joseph

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Grant Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>To: "Braillenote List"
>><[email protected]
>>>Date sent: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:19:33 -0800
>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Setting up a Gmail
>>account on the BrailleNote

>>>Definitely doesn't work here.  And really, I
>>don't see how it can since you
>>>are using the wrong port number, and are
>>telling it not to use SSL when it
>>>should be.

>>>Grant
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Scott Erichsen"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>To: "'Braillenote List'"
>><[email protected]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:50 PM
>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Setting up a Gmail
>>account on the BrailleNote


>>>>I know, but it still worked fine for me.
>>>> Try it


>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>m] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 4:43 PM
>>>> To: Braillenote List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Setting up a
>>Gmail account on the BrailleNote

>>>> But GMail uses secure (SSL) authentication,
>>and the POP port is 995.

>>>> Grant
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Scott Erichsen"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> To: "'Braillenote List'"
>><[email protected]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:36 PM
>>>> Subject: [Braillenote] Setting up a Gmail
>>account on the BrailleNote


>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>> You set Gmail up as follows:

>>>>> 1.  Create a new email account
>>>>> 2.  For email address enter the name at
>>gmail.com
>>>>> 3.  for pop server enter pop.gmail.com
>>>>> 4.  for SMTP server enter your ISP's SMTP
>>address.  E.G.  mail.internet.com
>>>>> I made that one up but replace it with your
>>own ISP'S SMTP address.
>>>>> For ports, leave them as normal.
>>>>> Here is what they should be.
>>>>> POP Port: 110
>>>>> SMTP port: 25
>>>>> You will be able to check and send mail with
>>your GMAIL account.
>>>>> Ask any questions.
>>>>> I just set mine up from scratch again and it
>>works fine.
>>>>> Be awhere though, if you change ISP's or
>>travel you will need to change
>>>>> the
>>>>> SMTP server that the account is looking for
>>otherwise you won't be able
>>>>> to
>>>>> send mail only receive.
>>>>> Good luck.

>>>>> Let me know if these instructions make
>>sense.

>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Scott E


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