Louise,
Have you tried using your BrailleNote as a Remote Synth with JAWS? (this is
a completely different story). 

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Richard:
I don't think you should diss keynote speech that much because the eloquence
speech isn't exactly something to rave about.  Personally i love keynote for
its responsiveness and clear pronunciation as i have found some words hard
to figure out with eloquence.  I did try using eloquence when i got my
mpower in october, but apart from being quieter and slower than keynote i
found the voice unrealistic and it made the speaker crackle.

Having used supernova and window eyes i've found that keynote always wins,
and i just wish they'd make a screen reader with keynote speech that's as
good as window eyes.

Thanks, louise.
ps: feel free to diss me if y'all want.


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>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] reflections on
elequence1,keynote gold and speaking with an accent or dialect

>Greetings:
>It is not possible in the words of a mere mortal
to describe how much I
>loathe Keynote Gold speech.  I cannot wax
eloquently enough on this
>subject.  However, being for the most part a
rational human being I
>realize that these are purely subjective
thoughts.  Music, art, food,
>and speech synthesizers are truly things that we
do not  agree on, and
>why should we?
>Frankly Keynote Gold sounds to me like an angry
insect with its mouth
>full!     It sounds as if it is lying under a 
pillow.
>Now, this does not mean that Eloquence doesn't
have its issues,
>especially when it comes to the Braillenote.  I
have used all of the
>major note taking devices on the market.  The
Braillenote mPower is the
>only such device on which Eloquence stutters.  
Often when I am showing a
>student how to become accustomed to the Braille
note's keyboard, I will
>have that student type with the keyboard voice set
to spell.  Eloquence
>cannot even come close to keeping up with what is
being typed.  This is
>quite frustrating for new students.  Since many of
my students are not
>competent enough in Braille to take advantage of
that media, they must
>rely on speech.  And, I will tell you this.  I
have never found one
>student who prefers Keynote Gold over Eloquence.  
But, I am confident
>that one day, I shall!


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>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:05 PM
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>Subject: [Braillenote] reflections on
elequence1,keynote gold and
>speaking with an accent or dialect


>I purchased the voicenote thinking that I would
prefer the
>Eloquence after using it with JAWS but now
exclusively work with
>Keynote.  Eloquence is piercing to my ear.  
Keynote is soothing
>and just goes right into my brain.  Years ago I
preferred the
>Artic voice over the supposedly human sounding
decktalk.  There
>is something creepy with a synthesizer trying to
sound human!
>Keynote has done a passible job with various
dialects.  By which
>I mean that it was not distracting to me to read
book characters
>speaking with scottish, or Cockney dialects.  I
did use the
>pronunciation dictionary for just a few words and
names which was
>easy! u for utility, p for pronunciation
dictionary, a to add
>word follow prompts.  It would be fun to be able
to switch to a
>different dialect such as Irish, Scottish or
British all within
>the English version.
>Another problem with Eloquence is that it will
speak French for
>no reason.  Whats with that?
>Question: are the rates of speed equal for each
voice? I mean, do
>you get the same words per minute for each number
chosen.
>Eloquence sounds faster and maybe more jarring.
>Have there been studies on this stuff? One voice
which sounds
>terrible to me is that of the bookport.  Where is
that Artic
>voice? I think it was the 263 chip.  That's all.  
Thanks for
>listening.

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