I also wish they would do this, and for that matter, produce a unit with
just speech.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Notetaker comparisons


Joseph,
That's exactly what I said.
My biggest objection about the  Braille
Sense is that they don't seem interested in producing a Braille Sense
with a qwerty keyboard.
In discussions that I've had with GW Micro, I have advised them strongly
that they would sell more Braille Sense's if this were to come to pass.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:19 PM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Notetaker comparisons


Richard,
I think HISM representative said that they
are using their own translator (I have to log
onto to their Korean website and see what I
find it there, or I have to ask either GW
Micro or HIMS when they come to CSUN 2007).
I might ask the Braille Sense user group
(based in Korea) about what translators they
are using.
Cheers,
Joseph

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Ring"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Braillenote List"
<[email protected]
>Date sent: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:09:15 -0600
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Notetaker
comparisons

>The comparison doesn't provide this data.  I
have a strong feeling that
>the Braille Sense is using proprietary
translation software.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m] On Behalf Of Terri
>Pannett
>Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:23 PM
>To: Braillenote List
>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Notetaker
comparisons


>Dear Joe,

>This is more informative, but what braille
translation software do they
>use?
>I know the BN uses Duxbury, but what about
the others?  What's the
>difference between the way the displays feel
and how many foreign
>languages
>do they support?

>Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.  Army
MARS call sign AAT9PX,
>California
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joseph Lee"
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>To: "BrailleNote List"
<[email protected]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:54 AM
>Subject: [Braillenote] Notetaker comparisons


>> Dear list,
>> The Notetaker Comparison sheet which Michele
sent was mostly correct,
>but
>> there are some things which are incorrect
and which some of them are
>> missing.
>> Before we get into that, there are some
precautions:
>> * Richard's print is valid.  The original
specs will not tell you
>> everything.  It is meant to be a Braille
Sense's point of view on
>> BrailleNote and PAC Mate.
>> * Due to concerns, may I request that if you
are replying to this
>message,
>> PLEASE DO IT OFF LIST PRIVATELY!! Thanks for
your considerations.
>> Now, onto the text:

>> Few notes to consider:
>> 1.  Contrary to the sheet, the Record button
is actually enabled by
>> default.
>> 2.  Also contrarry to the sheet, PAC Mate
has MSN Messenger built in.
>> 3.  Actually, PAC Mate has its own DAISY
reader that can be downloaded

>> from Freedom Scientific's website.  You must
purchase the full
>version.
>> 4.  They did not mention that in fact HIMS
is planning on releasing an
>SDK
>> for Braille Sense.  This means that Braille
Sense and PAC Mate can run
>3rd
>> party programs, whereas BrailleNote cannot
(Braille Sense can run
>programs
>> which are written with its own dedicated
SDK.)
>> 5.  Also, PAC Mate's USB port is not Mini B
connector.  Rather, it is
>Mini
>> AB connector.  It is called USB ON-THEG
(OTG; where depending on which

>> cord is connected, a device can act as a
host or a client device).

>> A detailed specs in terms of operating
system, processor and other
>things
>> can be found below:
>> Braille Sense;
>> BrailleNote BT32;
>> PAC Mate BX440
>> Processor:
>> Intel X-Scale PXA255
>> Intel X-Scale PXA272
>> Intel X-Scale 400 MHz (possibly PXA255)
>> Processor speed:
>> 400 MHz
>> 416 MHz
>> 400 MHz
>> Operating System:
>> WindowsCE.net(Windows CE 4.1 to be exact)
>> Windows CE 4.2
>> Windows Mobile 2003 (powered by Windows CE
4.2)
>> Modular upgrade and/or braille display
upgrade:
>> No
>> Yes *
>> Yes *2
>> * You can upgrade from 18 cell to 32 cell.
>> *2 PAC Mate can use either 20 or 40 cell
display with its base unit.
>> QWERTY keyboard version availible:
>> No
>> Yes
>> Yes
>> Voice engine used:
>> Eloquence
>> KeyNote Gold and Eloquence
>> Eloquence
>> Visual display output:
>> Yes with built-in screen
>> Yes with a CF VGA card or via serial,
Bluetooth or InfraRed
>> Yes; either through ActiveSync Remote
Display Control or via CF VGA
>card
>> Upgrade method:
>> Via CF card or online (where the upgrade
file is downloaded and
>executed
>> automatically)
>> Via SD card (the card must be between 64 and
512 MB in size)
>> Via CF card
>> Operating System upgradability:
>> Yes
>> Yes
>> Yes *
>> * requires new hardware since existing
hardware cannot support Windows
>CE
>> 5.0 technology
>> Braille navigation control:
>> Yes with the arrows on either side of the
display (these are called
>scroll
>> buttons)
>> Yes with the front thumb keys
>> Yes with the NAV row buttons
>> FM Radio:
>> No
>> Yes
>> No
>> Function keys for quick execution of certain
commands:
>> Yes (it is located to the either side of the
spacebar.  there are four
>of
>> them)
>> No *
>> Yes (the eight function keys are just above
the braille keyboard)
>> * instead, it has task switching shortcut
keys.
>> One-handed Mode:
>> No
>> Yes
>> Yes
>> Battery type:
>> Lithium Ion (replaceable; that is, it can be
replaced by end user)
>> Lithium Ion
>> Lithium Polymer
>> IMAPBLED (Internet Mail Access Protocol)
email account support:
>> No
>> No
>> Yes
>> Dedicated cursor cross for arrow simulation:
>> No
>> No
>> Yes
>> Ability to use a group of keys to quickly
move by line, sentence, or
>> paragraph:
>> No
>> Yes using previous and next thumb keys
>> Yes with whiz wheels

>> These are the detailed specs that the
comparison has failed to
>mention.
>> And these are the specs that I know of.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph

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