Mike, Richard and list,
In order to do that, HIMS has to announce a production of a speech only unit
- or better, a QWERTY version. I sometimes visit their Korean home page and
BBS systems and there is currently no word about these version (I think the
Korean users over there are not interested in these versions; When HIMS
representative comes to CSUN 2007, I'm definitely going to have a word about
it with this person). When Korean versions of VoiceNote and BrailleNote QT
versions (at this time, there is only a Korean version for BrailleNote BT32
and BT18) are released, HIMS might be forced to release both speech only and
QWERTY versions of Braille Sense.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Notetaker comparisons

I also wish they would do this, and for that matter, produce a unit with
just speech.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Notetaker comparisons


Joseph,
That's exactly what I said.
My biggest objection about the  Braille
Sense is that they don't seem interested in producing a Braille Sense
with a qwerty keyboard.
In discussions that I've had with GW Micro, I have advised them strongly
that they would sell more Braille Sense's if this were to come to pass.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:19 PM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Notetaker comparisons


Richard,
I think HISM representative said that they
are using their own translator (I have to log
onto to their Korean website and see what I
find it there, or I have to ask either GW
Micro or HIMS when they come to CSUN 2007).
I might ask the Braille Sense user group
(based in Korea) about what translators they
are using.
Cheers,
Joseph

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Ring"
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<[email protected]
>Date sent: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:09:15 -0600
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Notetaker
comparisons

>The comparison doesn't provide this data.  I
have a strong feeling that
>the Braille Sense is using proprietary
translation software.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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m] On Behalf Of Terri
>Pannett
>Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:23 PM
>To: Braillenote List
>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Notetaker
comparisons


>Dear Joe,

>This is more informative, but what braille
translation software do they
>use?
>I know the BN uses Duxbury, but what about
the others?  What's the
>difference between the way the displays feel
and how many foreign
>languages
>do they support?

>Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.  Army
MARS call sign AAT9PX,
>California
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joseph Lee"
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>To: "BrailleNote List"
<[email protected]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:54 AM
>Subject: [Braillenote] Notetaker comparisons


>> Dear list,
>> The Notetaker Comparison sheet which Michele
sent was mostly correct,
>but
>> there are some things which are incorrect
and which some of them are
>> missing.
>> Before we get into that, there are some
precautions:
>> * Richard's print is valid.  The original
specs will not tell you
>> everything.  It is meant to be a Braille
Sense's point of view on
>> BrailleNote and PAC Mate.
>> * Due to concerns, may I request that if you
are replying to this
>message,
>> PLEASE DO IT OFF LIST PRIVATELY!! Thanks for
your considerations.
>> Now, onto the text:

>> Few notes to consider:
>> 1.  Contrary to the sheet, the Record button
is actually enabled by
>> default.
>> 2.  Also contrarry to the sheet, PAC Mate
has MSN Messenger built in.
>> 3.  Actually, PAC Mate has its own DAISY
reader that can be downloaded

>> from Freedom Scientific's website.  You must
purchase the full
>version.
>> 4.  They did not mention that in fact HIMS
is planning on releasing an
>SDK
>> for Braille Sense.  This means that Braille
Sense and PAC Mate can run
>3rd
>> party programs, whereas BrailleNote cannot
(Braille Sense can run
>programs
>> which are written with its own dedicated
SDK.)
>> 5.  Also, PAC Mate's USB port is not Mini B
connector.  Rather, it is
>Mini
>> AB connector.  It is called USB ON-THEG
(OTG; where depending on which

>> cord is connected, a device can act as a
host or a client device).

>> A detailed specs in terms of operating
system, processor and other
>things
>> can be found below:
>> Braille Sense;
>> BrailleNote BT32;
>> PAC Mate BX440
>> Processor:
>> Intel X-Scale PXA255
>> Intel X-Scale PXA272
>> Intel X-Scale 400 MHz (possibly PXA255)
>> Processor speed:
>> 400 MHz
>> 416 MHz
>> 400 MHz
>> Operating System:
>> WindowsCE.net(Windows CE 4.1 to be exact)
>> Windows CE 4.2
>> Windows Mobile 2003 (powered by Windows CE
4.2)
>> Modular upgrade and/or braille display
upgrade:
>> No
>> Yes *
>> Yes *2
>> * You can upgrade from 18 cell to 32 cell.
>> *2 PAC Mate can use either 20 or 40 cell
display with its base unit.
>> QWERTY keyboard version availible:
>> No
>> Yes
>> Yes
>> Voice engine used:
>> Eloquence
>> KeyNote Gold and Eloquence
>> Eloquence
>> Visual display output:
>> Yes with built-in screen
>> Yes with a CF VGA card or via serial,
Bluetooth or InfraRed
>> Yes; either through ActiveSync Remote
Display Control or via CF VGA
>card
>> Upgrade method:
>> Via CF card or online (where the upgrade
file is downloaded and
>executed
>> automatically)
>> Via SD card (the card must be between 64 and
512 MB in size)
>> Via CF card
>> Operating System upgradability:
>> Yes
>> Yes
>> Yes *
>> * requires new hardware since existing
hardware cannot support Windows
>CE
>> 5.0 technology
>> Braille navigation control:
>> Yes with the arrows on either side of the
display (these are called
>scroll
>> buttons)
>> Yes with the front thumb keys
>> Yes with the NAV row buttons
>> FM Radio:
>> No
>> Yes
>> No
>> Function keys for quick execution of certain
commands:
>> Yes (it is located to the either side of the
spacebar.  there are four
>of
>> them)
>> No *
>> Yes (the eight function keys are just above
the braille keyboard)
>> * instead, it has task switching shortcut
keys.
>> One-handed Mode:
>> No
>> Yes
>> Yes
>> Battery type:
>> Lithium Ion (replaceable; that is, it can be
replaced by end user)
>> Lithium Ion
>> Lithium Polymer
>> IMAPBLED (Internet Mail Access Protocol)
email account support:
>> No
>> No
>> Yes
>> Dedicated cursor cross for arrow simulation:
>> No
>> No
>> Yes
>> Ability to use a group of keys to quickly
move by line, sentence, or
>> paragraph:
>> No
>> Yes using previous and next thumb keys
>> Yes with whiz wheels

>> These are the detailed specs that the
comparison has failed to
>mention.
>> And these are the specs that I know of.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph

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