Hi there,
I don't know.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:47 PM
To: Joseph Lee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] my wish list 

July 9, 2007
Dear Joseph,
I get that part, but how can I have the BrailleNote speak words 
correctly in context?
From,
Bobby

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Joseph Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Bob Cavanaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[email protected]
>Date sent: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:56:12 -0700
>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] my wish list

>Hi there,
>There are some words, when entered, will cause Pronounciation
>Dictionary to produce errors.  Some cases include:
>* The file itself is written in-puter braille.  So you'll need to
>use computer braille when entering both word and its
>pronounciation.
>* Apparently the dictionary does not allow spaces between words.
>This applies when you are entering the actual word.  You can
>enter spaces between words in "mispelling" or pronounciation.
>* There are several punctuation marks and number rules that the
>dictionary does not accept.  These include all punctuations and
>numbers.  Although I'd suppose that hyphen is an exception to
>this rule when entering pronounciations (not the actual word).
>Cheers,
>Joseph

>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: Bob Cavanaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "Malaina VanderWal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>[email protected]
>>Date sent: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:12:41 -0700
>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] my wish list

>>July 9, 2007
>>Dear Joseph,
>>Could you elaborate on the one using the pronunciation
>>dictionary? I have tried to enter read in context, but it says
>>word contains both punctuation and alphabetical characters.
>>About the calculator, what I mean is like, 9.8 then when you
>>press the fraction command it no longer gives an error beep and
>>you can enter the fraction.
>>From,
>>Bobby

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Malaina VanderWal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>To: "Joseph Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Bob Cavanaugh"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[email protected]
>>>Date sent: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 11:46:06 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] my wish list

>>>The calculator on the bn can convert decimals to fractions and
>>viseversa.
>>>Malaina
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Joseph Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>To: "Bob Cavanaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>>><[email protected]
>>>Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:50 PM
>>>Subject: re: [Braillenote] my wish list


>>>> Hi Bob and list,
>>>> Well, these are good suggestions (in my opinion).  However, I'll
>>explain
>>>> this first because we can go further:
>>>> There are things that BrailleNote cannot do while a PC can.  The
>>reason:
>>>> This is due to the design of the BrailleNote.  Windows CE
>>devices are
>>>> meant to be PC companion, not PC replacements.  Also, hardware
>>limitations
>>>> must be put into consideration, as there are features that, if
>>they are
>>>> added, could destroy current hardware.  In orther for some of
>>Bob's
>>>> suggestions to come alive, a major fundamental hardware change
>>is needed.
>>>> Here are my comments and opinions regarding Bob's suggestions:

>>>> 1.  Amplitude Modulation (AM) support: this requires fundamental
>>changes
>>>> to the hardware.  Also please note that AM uses more hardware
>>resources
>>>> than FM does.  But I view that it can be useful.
>>>> 2.  Auto advance of braille display: I believe that it can be
>>implemented,
>>>> however, there should be a universal setting to determine this.
>>>> 3.  Keybase: It is actually implemented.  (I'll definitely
>>mention this in
>>>> my BrailleNote podcast.  The first letter navigation to choose
>>field type
>>>> can be useful, though.
>>>> 4.  Email: You'll actually need to create this particular folder
>>in order
>>>> to do it.  The User Guide only tells you examples of folders
>>that you can
>>>> create.  Also, My Email is not one of seven default items (this
>>is why it
>>>> is not mentioned).
>>>> 5.  Voice memos: This isn't possible, as hardware only supports
>>recording
>>>> in mono.  Also, if this is implemented, be aware that it will
>>use tons of
>>>> hardware and software resources.  Although the CPU on the mPower
>>supports
>>>> encoding and decoding media files, it does not, however have
>>capabilities
>>>> to convert from mono to stereo (you'll need a special codec
>>designed for
>>>> it).
>>>> 6.  Voice memos: Yet another hardware change should be made in
>>order for
>>>> the microphone to take advantage of this.  This particular
>>feature cannot
>>>> be implemented because it is a hardware thing, not a software
>>thing.
>>>> Although Noise Reduction can be used, it will eat a lot of
>>resources.
>>>> 7.  Hiding some poompts in Options Menu: The pompts "Spell" and
>>"Repeat
>>>> with punctuation" are there as a help device.  It is especially
>>useful for
>>>> VoiceNote products.  These two commands supplements Repeat
>>command (SPACE
>>>> with r/REPEAT key).
>>>> 8.  Internet options menu at the Address prompt: An excellent
>>suggestion.
>>>> Can be beneficial.
>>>> 9.  Web browser (progress tones): Actually, it is already there.
>>>> 10.  File manager (moving folders): An excellent suggestion.
>>>> 11.  File manager (percentage indicator when copying folders):
>>In my
>>>> opinion, it should be implemented on files as well as folders.
>>>> 12.  Keyplus (converting decimals to fraction): That is an
>>excellent
>>>> suggestion.
>>>> 13.  File Manager (elimination of folder name file): Actually,
>>you cannot
>>>> remove these files, as file systems need it in order to track
>>folders.
>>>> 14.  Options menu (appearance of Spell option in Media Player):
>>This
>>>> option is useless as media files are not text and are treated
>>differently.
>>>> 15.  Database in keylist or keybase: COULDB files are system
>>(Pocket
>>>> Access files); because system needs it, it must be protected
>>from
>>>> accidental editing.
>>>> 16.  General (elimination of stutter when inserting network
>>cards): This
>>>> is because of the sound driver's interference with network card
>>drivers.
>>>> This requires an update to the sound card driver.
>>>> 17.  Keybase: This is rather a system algarithm to keep files
>>and folders
>>>> intact.  This thing happens with not just KeyBase files, but
>>with all
>>>> applications.  To eliminate this, an upgrade to Windows CE is
>>needed.
>>>> 18.  Voice memos: What if someone needs to hear the memo again?
>>But I
>>>> think this can be implemented, as this is critical when copying
>>large
>>>> notes.
>>>> 19.  General (pronounciation): There is a workaround, and it is
>>to use
>>>> Pronounciation Dictionary.  In order to do this, the
>>pronounciation table
>>>> must be updated.
>>>> 20.  Wordprocessor (computer braille in file names under BRF and
>>KeySoft
>>>> 2.0 files): These are computer files that are designed to work
>>with
>>>> computer programs (especially BRF files) such as Duxbury.
>>Another reason:
>>>> usually extensions are in computer braille, so in order to keep
>>the file
>>>> title intact, computer braille is used on the file name as well.
>>>> 21.  Database in Keylist or Keybase: Can you describe further
>>about this?
>>>> 22.  Wordprocessor: This is not supported in Windows CE 4.2 (it
>>requires
>>>> at least Windows CE 6.0).
>>>> 23.  Genral (inclusion of CSV file creation and recording FM
>>Radio in User
>>>> Guide): Why not.  But please remember that a CSV (Comma
>>Separated Values)
>>>> file is actually an Excel file, and the quality of FM Radio
>>recording
>>>> depends on reception.  I'd think that it is useful.
>>>> 24.  Keybase: These are needed especially by database engines
>>for
>>>> reference purposes.
>>>> 25.  General: Good suggestion for HW staff.
>>>> 26.  General: Actually, it is already present in General folder.
>>This is
>>>> because Xbase technology uses General Public License.
>>>> 27.  General (inclusion of Character Count in Information Menu):
>>That
>>>> could be useful.
>>>> 28.  Notification: These are actually system notifications and
>>there are
>>>> no way to stop it.  Although a workaround can be developed by
>>HW.
>>>> 29.  Spell Checker: Cool.  I think it can be simple as not
>>counting caps
>>>> as part of a word.
>>>> 30.  General (disappearance of GPS item in Task Menu for QT when
>>GPS is
>>>> not installed): That can be a life saver.
>>>> 31.  General (inclusion of FM Radio in Task Menu on QT): I've
>>tested this
>>>> and it should be implemented.
>>>> 32.  General (PDF translation): PDF support is not even included
>>yet.  In
>>>> order to do this, PDF support must be included.
>>>> 33.  Inclusion of PDF support: HumanWare is still trying to do
>>this.
>>>> 34.  File Manager (mark): This is useful to check file contents
>>before
>>>> deleting the file itself.
>>>> 35.  User Guide update: You'll need to contact Kate Dasler at
>>HumanWare
>>>> (or whoever the Technical Author is) to discuss about User Guide
>>changes
>>>> in detail.
>>>> 36.  (Notification: This requires changes in notification
>>algarithms.
>>>> Messages like "Connected" is a system prompt.
>>>> 37.  (Formatting: This particular setting is document-specific
>>and it is
>>>> temporary (I'll explain this further in my podcast, though).
>>>> 38.  Table support: Yet again, this requires Windows CE 5.0 to
>>take
>>>> advantage of this feature.  This also requires introduction of
>>special
>>>> symbols for display tables.
>>>> 39.  Planner: That requires introduction of comment lines.
>>>> 40.  Web browser and Email: This requires introduction of HTML
>>email.
>>>> Also, the softwares in question must be rewritten to take
>>advantage of
>>>> this, which could take time.
>>>> 41.  General: Actually, this depends on what you set in Date and
>>Time set
>>>> option in Utilities.  This is a universal setting, meaning that
>>it will
>>>> apply to all applications.
>>>> 42.  Email: I guess that can be done.
>>>> 43.  Auto-advance when thumb keys are off: I think this can be
>>implemented
>>>> in limited form, because auto-advance DOES rely on thumb keys
>>for speed.

>>>> These are some of my comments to Bob's suggestions.  I would say
>>that they
>>>> are excellent suggestions.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph

>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: Bob Cavanaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>To: [email protected]
>>>>>Date sent: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:43:09 -0700
>>>>>Subject: [Braillenote] my wish list

>>>>>July 2, 2007
>>>>>Dear list,
>>>>>I have several things I want to see added in the future.  They
>>>>>will be described just as they are in the readme files.
>>>>>1.  a.m..  fm radio: Now your radio has just gotten a whole lot
>>>>>better.  Now instead of just listening to your favorite fm
>>>>>stations, you can now listen to your favorite a.m..  stations.
>>>>>2.  Auto advance of braille display: Now when you switch
>>>>>applications you no longer have to press the command that turns
>>>>>on the auto advance every time.
>>>>>3.  Keybase: Now you can change the field types and if there is
>>>>>more than one field type starting with the same letter, keysoft
>>>>>will now rotate between the field types in the field definition
>>>>>list.  This change is also applied when in the field options
>>>>>list.
>>>>>4.  Email: This correction applies to the description of the
>>>>>folders in the user guide.  I think if there is going to be a my
>>>>>email folder that it should be mentioned in the list of folders
>>>>>instead of just when there is a prompt to move an email to a
>>>>>folder.
>>>>>5.  Voice memos, Now you have the option of changing the sound to
>>>>>stereo.
>>>>>6.  Voice memos: Now when something comes out of the loud speaker
>>>>>it is no longer fuzzy.
>>>>>7.  This change has been applied to the options menu: When in a
>>>>>menu the spell repeat and spell and the here punctuation options
>>>>>will not appear unless there is something to spell or hear the
>>>>>punctuation of.  For example, when in the main menu it does not
>>>>>spell out main menu, so the spell repeat and spell and the hear
>>>>>punctuation options will not appear.
>>>>>8.  Internet options menu: Now you can access the internet
>>>>>options menu from the Url prompt.
>>>>>9.  Web browser: Now the web browser gives progress tones every
>>>>>few seconds to let you know if something is happening when
>>>>>connecting to the web or Email.
>>>>>10.  File manager: Now an option for move folder has been added
>>>>>to the folder manager menu.
>>>>>11.  File manager: When copying a folder you can now obtain a
>>>>>percentage of completion.
>>>>>12.  Keyplus: Now you can enter decimal points into fractions.
>>>>>13.  File Manager: Now when you create a folder there is no
>>>>>longer a folder name file.
>>>>>14.  Options menu: Now the spell repeat and spell option appears
>>>>>in the media player.
>>>>>15.  Database in keylist or keybase: Now when you move or coppy a
>>>>>database the CDB file is no longer protected automatically.
>>>>>16.  General: Now the speech doesn't stutter when you have a
>>>>>network card in.
>>>>>17.  Keybase: Now when you use a database on a memory drive or
>>>>>storage card it reverts to the Keybase folder on the flash disk
>>>>>instead of the none folder on the Keysoft system disk when the
>>>>>drive is removed after using the database.
>>>>>18.  Voice memos: Now when you play back the memo using the enter
>>>>>with M command, the media player commands no longer overwrite the
>>>>>keyword commands.
>>>>>19.  General: Now the keynote gold synthesizer speaks words
>>>>>correctly in context.
>>>>>20.  Wordprocessor: Now when you create plain braille files or
>>>>>Keysoft version 2 braille documents you no longer must use
>>>>>computer braille for the file name.
>>>>>21.  Database in Keylist or Keybase: Now when you obtain
>>>>>information on the database it no longer gives the rong time of
>>>>>last modification.
>>>>>22.  Wordprocessor: Now an incompatible word document can be
>>>>>translated into a compatible format.
>>>>>23.  Genral: Information has been added to the database manager
>>>>>and media center chapters about, Database manager: how to create
>>>>>a csv file and Media center, how to record the radio.
>>>>>24.  Keybase: if a database record contains numbers a quotation
>>>>>mark is no longer placed around the commas in the CSV file.
>>>>>25.  General: In the spelling checker when you press the space
>>>>>with dots 1-4 command the sentence is now displayed and spoken,
>>>>>(assuming that you have both braille and speech on)
>>>>>26.  General: Now information explaining more clearly what the
>>>>>xpase library is has been added to the user guide.
>>>>>27.  General: A character count has been added to the information
>>>>>menu.
>>>>>28.  Now when the brailleNote notifys you that you lose
>>>>>connectivity it no longer stops reading.
>>>>>29.  spelling checker: now when you correct a misspelled word
>>>>>with a word in the dictionary it leaves capitals as they are.
>>>>>30.  General: now the navigation using Gps will not appear in the
>>>>>task list accessed by function with S if you don't have the
>>>>>software for the gps.
>>>>>31.  General: Now the Fm radio appears on the task list accessed
>>>>>by function with S.
>>>>>32.  General: Now pdf files translate correctly into other
>>>>>formats.
>>>>>33.  Now you can read pdf files.
>>>>>34.  Now when you have files marked in the directory option you
>>>>>no longer have to unmark all items before you open a file.  It
>>>>>will just open the file your on in the list.
>>>>>35.  Now updates have been added to the file manager and dazy
>>>>>book reader chapters of the user guide.  In the file manager
>>>>>chapter, in the example of the document information the date is
>>>>>writen as it is said, for example: May 24, instead of 24 may.  It
>>>>>also says 945 instead of 945 bytes which it should say.  In the
>>>>>daisy book reader it says most daisy books are too large to store
>>>>>on the flash disk of your BrailleNote Pk.  If you have a
>>>>>BrailleNote Pk nothing has been changed but if you have another
>>>>>type that type is in the user guide.  For example: most Daisy
>>>>>books are too large to store on your BrailleNote MPower.
>>>>>36.  Now when the BrailleNote establishes a connection after the
>>>>>first time, it no longer notifys you.
>>>>>37.  Now when you change the spacing to double in a word document
>>>>>it no longer reverts to single spacing when you exit the document
>>>>>and is no longer interpreted as single space.
>>>>>38.  Now everything in the range of word documents is compatible
>>>>>regardless of if it contains a table.
>>>>>39.  planner: Now when you have an appointment on a day when you
>>>>>write something else in the planner it no longer adds what you
>>>>>have just written to the appointment title, but it puts a new
>>>>>line where you are writing.
>>>>>40.  Web browser and Email: now you can click on a link in an
>>>>>Email message and you will be prompted for an address in Keyweb,
>>>>>which will be the address of the link.  Also you can click on an
>>>>>Email address on a web page and instead of getting an invalid
>>>>>sintax error it will take you to Keymail and the address will be
>>>>>correct just like it is on any ordinary computer.
>>>>>41.  General: now when inserting the date into a document you can
>>>>>now choose from several ways to insert the date.
>>>>>42.  Email: Now when you are at the main menu and keymail asks if
>>>>>you want to send the Emails that are in the outbox you can now
>>>>>review those Emails.
>>>>>43.  Now when you turn the thumb keys off the auto advance is
>>>>>automatically turned on.
>>>>>I have also heard that instant messaging is coming in the future.
>>>>>Which version is that going to be in? HumanWare staff, if you
>>>>>don't think you could ever do any of these things, please let me
>>>>>know.  List, if you are wondering why some of these things are on
>>>>>here, when I did some of this, I thought about some of the things
>>>>>a computer has and the BrailleNote can't do so I thought, If a
>>>>>computer can do that why shouldn't the BrailleNote be able to do
>>>>>that? I also included those slight changes to the user guide so
>>>>>that any user won't be surprised when something happens that they
>>>>>didn't expect.
>>>>>From,
>>>>>Bobby

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