Hello! I meant to send this to all the list rather than anyone privately. Sorry i picked on the party in question since I met this to go to everyone.
Hello all! It seems to me that we have been requested in the past to speak about the Braile Note family of products only rather than treat this list as a general Blindness issues list. This list is available to us as a service of Humanware. I think we should respect Humanware by discussing the Braillenot Family of products only instead of touting the advantages and disadvantages of The BN over other blindness products. If someone wants a comparative product review, I think this should be done privately. This should be done in respect to Humanware which is providing this list as a service. I have made changes myself and I didn't select either Pacmate or BN. You can write me privately if you like. There are many products available now and more are forthcoming! It is human nature to say a given product is better than another. It matters not whether we feel strongly about our screen readers or notetakers. I think we should respect Humanware by answering questions about the BN family of products only and maybe touch on other humanware products. This is simply being courteous to Humanware which provides this fine list. I think too for those wishing to participate and are finding too many posts from this list, we'd do well to keep the traffic down a bit so all can be more appreciative of this fine service from Humanware! For what it is worth! Jim Aldrich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Richard Wells'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris Hallsworth'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Alex Parks'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Richard Wells'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 5:48 PM Subject: RE: [Braillenote] future of the braille note OK, all, First, in response to Richard's statement. If you save your data to the flash disk, you will *not lose it during an upgrade. I guess I'm really bothered by the defensiveness I see on this list. Why does the Pacmate (or any other product for that matter) have to be bad, in order for the BrailleNote to be good? I only posted my earlier message because these products are expensive, and I believe that potential buyers need to look very closely at what each does and does not do so that they can choose a product that will meet their needs. They're different products. They do different things and in general represent different philosophical approaches to blindness products. I have owned a Pacmate for four years, and been very happy with it. Now, for reasons related to how I want to use the device, I am looking at a BN. I expect that there will be things I like better about the PM, and things I like better about the BN, and that is as it should be. This rivalry over blindness products is just stupid, and does more to promote divisiveness within the blindness community than to actually help users figure out what product would serve them best. Donna > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 6:45 PM > To: Chris Hallsworth; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Alex Parks'; > 'Richard Wells'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] future of the braille note > > > Well stated Chris! > > I have found the BrailleNote M-power QT-32 I own to be far > more stable than > PAC Mate. > > Here is something else to consider: I just went through an > upgrade from 7.2 > to 7.5. I lost absolutely none of my data because it is stored in a > partition totally separate from where the system files are > located. I didn't > even have to touch E-mail settings or wireless network > configurations. I was > simply using it within seconds after the upgrade finished. > Try that with a > PAC Mate. > > By the way, if I want to use MSN Messenger, I'll just do that > on my Dell > Axim 51V running Mobile-Speak which also supports Avantgo > 6... which the PAC > Mate Omni will not support upon release... another step back > for PAC Mate > users. Go Freedom Science Fiction! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Alex Parks'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Richard > Wells'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] future of the braille note > > > Hi, this is certainly your impressions, as my BrailleNote > mPower BT 32 rarely crashes, and I only have to perform > resets if it either freezes or when it comes to connecting to > ActiveSync but the connection stops responding. Otherwise, > what a stable product. Chris Hallsworth BrailleNote mPower user > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Alex Parks'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Richard Wells'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 6:40 PM > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] future of the braille note > > > As a current user of that product, I would put a couple of > caveats on these statements. > > First, The PM is the better choice if you actually want to be > running Windows. > > Second, my sense from the discussions on this list, is that > the PM does a much better job of handling Word documents. > > 3. The PM does run Instant Messenger, so that would be > something to consider if it is important to you. > > I also have the impression that BN users have to perform > resets much more frequently, though that could be just an impression. > > Just some food for thought. > Cheers, > Donna > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex > > Parks > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:22 PM > > To: Richard Wells; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [email protected] > > Subject: re: [Braillenote] future of the braille note > > > > > > The omni will run CE 5, but Windows Mobile 6. Also, the MPower has > > 125 mb ram as will the Omni. However, I agree completely with what > > you said and recommend the same course of action. > > > > Have a great day, > > Alex > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Richard Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED],[email protected] > > >Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:35:14 -0500 > > >Subject: re: [Braillenote] future of the braille note > > > > >Hello, > > > > >Comparing the SmallTalk Ultra is apples to oranges since > this device > > >runs Windows XP. > > > > >In the case of the PAC Mate however, in my humble oppinion, > > we should > > >definitely stay far away from it and continue to follow the > > BrailleNote > > >devices if we need customized notetaker for the blind > > functionality. > > >My reasons for suggesting this course of action is the > following: 1. > > >PAC Mate, even upgraded will have only have half the RAM of the > > >currently available M-power line. 2. Absolutely no other on-board > > >hardware changes are being made to the PAC Mate. In other > words, we > > >are still stuck with one USB port to serve client and host > devices. > > >There are still no SD > > card > > >slots... only two CF slots. On-board Bluetooth support is not > > >forth-coming. They are not upgrading the processor... only > > doubling > > >the RAM to 128 MEGS which is, as I have already stated, > only half of > > >what the M-power units are sporting. > > > > >PAC Mate running Windows Mobile 5 is going to be dog slow! > As for me > > >and my house... we are staying with, and recommending the > Humanware > > >family of notetakers. > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>To: John Gallagher > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,[email protected] > > >>Date sent: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 07:20:39 -0500 > > >>Subject: re: [Braillenote] future of the braille note > > > > >>I'm not sure what the future holds, but in order to > upgrade to say, > > >>8.0, you must buy 7.5 somewhere down the line. I won't > > tell you what > > >>kind of machine to buy, but I will say that the Pac Mate > and Small > > >>Talk Ultra are not going to provide the same efficiency > as the Bn. > > >>David > > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>From: John Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>To: [email protected] > > >>>Date sent: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:40:37 +0100 > > >>>Subject: [Braillenote] future of the braille note > > > > >>>Hi list > > >>>very interesting listening to the posts on the upgrade. > > >>>I live in the uk and feel that the upgrade is not worth it for > > >>me. > > >>>I am not sure what the cost is but I will wait to see what the > > >>future holds. > > >>>I am very busy piano tuning playing chess and living a full life > > >>so, > > >>>I may have missed some emails especially concerning the future of > > >>our > > >>>braille notes. > > >>>I am a pk user and note the pac mate is moving forward in > > >>October. > > >>>does anyone know about the future of our grate product? > > >>>I am very seriously considering purchasing the small talk ultra > > >>for > > >>>portability and the use of windows xp. > > >>>I would love to be able to stream from say the bbc with my pk but > > >>of > > >>>course this cannot be done. > > >>>I work away a lot so need portability. > > >>>cheers. > > >>>the gps on the pk is the best. > > > > > > > > >>>___ > > >>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > > >>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > > copy to the > > >>>list as well. > > > > >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > >>___ > > >>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > > >>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the > > >>list as well. > > > > >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > >___ > > >Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > > >If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the > > >list as well. > > > > >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > > ___ > > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > > copy to the list as well. > > > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/bra> illenote > > > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/bra> illenote > ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. 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