Hi all,

Since I seem to be the one who started this all off, my apologies to folks like 
Jim who don't care for comparative posts.

I tend to agree with Vicky, which is why I posted.  I'm amazed at how 
frequently inaccurate info about a certain competitor's product shows up on 
this list. I'm sure that the same happens with the BN on the PM list, but since 
I'm not currently using a BN, I can't speak to that.  My intent was quite 
simply to correct inaccurate info and make sure that good info is available.  
As we all know, email lists can be a great source for very bad information. 
*smile* We all know how costly these products are, and this in my mind makes it 
all the more critical that the info floating around be good and useful.

That said, I do think Jim's poihnt is well-taken. So my apologies to the folks 
at HW if my post went too far afield from the intended purpose of this list.
Cheers,
Donna

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Vicky Collins"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: 9/19/07 6:31:07 AM
>To: "Braillenote List"<[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] list moderation/was A few thoughts please!
>
>Hi All,
>
>First, grin, no, I'm not the moderator, and am certainly not trying to be.
>However, seeing as folks are expressing their thoughts/concerns as they 
>relate to this list, I figured I
>might as well do the same.  Also, before I do that, I will admit that I have
>no idea of the disk space or cost considerations that HumanWare must have in
>order to maintain this list.  And, I, too, of course do appreciate HW making
>this list available to us.
>
>Anyway, myself, personally, I'm kind of pleased to see the BN list livening
>up again.  Sure, it isn't nearly as busy as say a couple of years ago,
>judging from the list archives, but it is indeed getting more traffic than a
>few months ago.  And, as one who still very much likes and uses the
>KeySoft/BN line of products, I'm happy to see the interest in those continue
>and be expressed on this list.
>
>As for product comparisons and the like, I personally don't mind them, and
>think they are often very helpful, in fact.  Although, out of respect to
>HumanWare and this list, of course I do feel that the BN family of products,
>or maybe the Stream or other such HW products if HW wishes, should be the
>main focus of any messages sent to the list.  I mean, of course, that a
>message completely related to a competitive note taker shouldn't be sent;
>however, expressing views on specific features of a competitive product, so 
>long
>as it relates to how the BN handles the same features in reference to that
>product, well, although I'm not opposed to this being allowed, I'm not sure
>what the actual list moderator view is these days.
>
>When I mentioned the list moderator view above, I wasn't trying to be
>smarting off or anything, and I certainly will respect whatever request I
>know the current list moderator to express.  For example, when Dean was
>moderating the list, he didn't want product comparisons at all; however,
>when Andy was later moderating the list, he said he didn't care what we
>talked about as long as we were polite--not an exact quote from Andy, but
>I do believe I've retained the essence of what he said.
>
>So, again, seeing as we've pretty much been left to our own devices, so to
>speak, by HW as far as this list goes, although I do intend to make my posts
>in some way related to the BN/HW products, I can't promise that I won't 
>mention another
>note taking device along the way in the meantime.  However, again, just my
>thoughts, and I'm perfectly willing to abide by the wishes of the list
>moderator, should those be expressed.
>Vicky Collins
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>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "James Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:03 AM
>Subject: [Braillenote] A few thoughts please!
>
>
>Hello!
>
>I meant to send this to all the list rather than anyone privately.  Sorry i
>picked on the party in question since I met this to go to everyone.
>
>Hello all!
>
>It seems to me that we have been requested in the past to speak about the
>Braile Note family of products only rather than treat this list as a general
>Blindness issues list.  This list is available to us as a service of
>Humanware.  I think we should respect Humanware by discussing the Braillenot
>Family of products only instead of touting the advantages and disadvantages
>of The BN over other blindness products.  If someone wants a comparative
>product review, I think this should be done privately.  This should be done
>in respect to Humanware which is providing this list as a service.  I have
>made changes myself and I didn't select either Pacmate or BN.  You can write
>me privately if you like.  There are many products available now and more
>are forthcoming!  It is human nature to say a given product is better than
>another.  It matters not whether we feel strongly about our screen readers
>or notetakers.  I think we should respect Humanware by answering questions
>about the BN family of products only and maybe touch on other humanware
>products. This is simply being courteous to Humanware which provides this
>fine list.  I think too for those wishing to participate and are finding too
>many posts from this list, we'd do well to keep the traffic down a bit so
>all can be more appreciative of this fine service from Humanware!  For what
>it is worth!
>
>Jim Aldrich
>
>
>
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