Here's hoping the "right" people are taking notice!
Peter.

----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: crazy shawty aka everything your mother wanted you to be but
you aintquite terned out like me! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Date sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:27:21 -0400
Subject: re: [Braillenote] KeySoft based on Linux

I agree.  We have bluetooth1, the lowest version you can get, no
wireless, no sdhc reader, a Windows CE version that was new five
years ago, a built-in microphone that a cheap cell phone could
probably beat hands down...  The hardware issues can be fixed
with a motherboard upgrade, and any software issues are gone as
soon as you switch to Linux, provided you have some people that
can do Linux.  If hw charges for it, they can still pay
programmers to do what they do now, but for Linux instead of
windows, plus they save the cost of having to buy CE to put on
the bn.  I think that Linux will also take up less room, so we
would have more ram available.

Have a great day,
Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: crazy shawty aka everything your mother wanted you to be
but you aint quite terned out like me!
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alex Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[email protected]
Date sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:37:01 +0100
Subject: re: [Braillenote] KeySoft based on Linux

I personally feel that linux would certainly make
the braillenote more like a mainstream pda adapted
for vi.  i guess humanware don't want to do it
because then they won't get as much money and
people can add and change their braillenote's how
they want.  Having only used linux briefly on a
laptop, i am still convinced that it would make
the braillenote family of products a wider selling
range.  It isn't made to make money in the way
windows is, and linux is vi accessible once you
get used to command lines.
I understand that a lot of programming is required
to implement linux into a braillenote, but that
shouldn't be a barrier.

Also why can't the sauce code be obtained for
braillenote applications and speech somehow? Why
are hw determined to make people who like the
braillenote pda dependent on them for everything?
I like my bn for its size and ease of operation,
but i can't help feeling that the bn becomes less
up to date as technology moves on.  It doesn't
even have built in wireless yet.

Lou.


----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[email protected]
Date sent: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:46:55 -0400
Subject: re: [Braillenote] KeySoft based on Linux

Why? Because Humanware says so.  In theory you
could go the way
of the Icon/Braille Plus and make a linux for the
bn's hardware,
then install it.  The problems are that the bn is
a custom
machine (the thumb keys, reset button, on/off
switch, battery
controller chip, radio chip, record button, and
the braille
input/output for example) and you would have to
tell Linux what
to do with all those, which would require a lot of
lower level
programming.  Then you have the issues of good
memory management,
power management for all the parts of the
motherboard and
perriferals (how DO you spell that?), and other
things that most
people take for granted, though I imagine that
libraries exist
for that type of thing.  Next you have to get some
kind of
braille translator up and running for braille
input with the
keyboard, braille output (including grade 2
translation, computer
braille in 6 and 8 dots, other codes...) and you
have to get
speech running, and you will lose KNG if you go
Linux; you will
more than likely end up with ESpeak as other
voices would take a
lot of memory and resources, like Eloquence does
now.

The advantages, however, are enormous: open-source
right down to
the kernel, third-party applications supported (as
long as the
braille and speech translator is working
correctly), easy access
to the shell, vastly more customizable interface
(imagine being
able to have a favorites area off the main menu
where you can put
often-used folders, web pages, drives, music,
programs, and so on
that you can tie to certain programs).  You want a
menu for the
games you write? Just put it in the main menu.
Want to use a
device not supported? Install the drivers for
Linux and you are
all set; no more needing HW to do whatever they do
to give us
drivers.  I could go on, but that is all I will
say for now; I
think you all see the pros and cons.  None of us,
however, has a
choice unless you know Linux better than the back
of your hand
and have a spare bn to use as a guinea pig.

Have a great day,
Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Date sent: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:37:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Braillenote] KeySoft based on Linux

I think I posted something about this before but
I'd forgotten
what people's reaction was.  Why must we confine
ourselves to the
limitations of Windows CE, when we have a custom
interface on top
of it anyway? Why not just go Linux and breathe
freedom with the
free, open source community? That would truly open
the doors if
we could get the BrailleNote to run off the shelf
packages from
some repository such as Ubuntu or KDE.  All, while
still keeping
our KeySoft interface, and perhaps improving it
ten fold.  What's
your take on this?




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