Yes, it's a shame, but KeyChat simply isn't a very high-functioning Jabber/XMPP client.
To use an analogy, suppose that a POP3 mail client was developed that only worked on non-SSL connections that used port 110, etc. and any differing settings simply wouldn't work. This is sort of the way KeyChat seems to work. All other Jabber clients I have used can communicate over a bunch of varying authentication methods and such, and can autodetect settings. KeyChat doesn't provide any of that functionality, and if Humanware is going to rely on developing "patches" that address incompatibility with certain individual XMPP sites, we'll no doubt continue to see KeyChat as a relatively hit-and-miss affair. Grant On 02/12/2010, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > I asked HW about the lack of support for Facebook Chat, and this > is their response. I still do not understand how, if FB is just > xmpp, keychat will not work when at least one other client, > Miranda, works just fine, but at least they are looking at it. > Still, if they have to release an update to connect to any > network, why not just go for MSN and the other non-xmpp ones > right off? What is the difference? Okay, rant over, here is the > hw reply. > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from BrailleNote > [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > ---- Original Message ------ > From: "HumanWare Technical Support" <[email protected] > Subject: RE: Facebook XMPP chat > Date sent: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:29:16 -0500 > > Hello Alex > > Thank you for notifying us of this activity. It has been > duplicated and > our R&D team is investigating. You are correct that the > flexability of > XMPP was a strong reason why the client used in keysoft is using > that > protocol. Traditionally one would be able to simply type their > username > at chat.facebook.com, then their password, use chat.facebook.com > as > their server, and the service would sign in. This activity is > not > occuring. Because the facebook xmpp chat capability is so > recent, we > are, like the rest of the chat community, still determining how > facebook's methods differ from other xmpp services. > > Thank you again for notifying us and stay tuned to the > BrailleNote > newswire for any updates. > > Regards > > ________________________________ > > Greg Stilson > Product And Support specialist > HumanWare > P.O. Box 800 1 UPS Way Champlain, NY 12919 USA T. 800-722-3393 > ext. > F. +1 888 871 4828 > www.humanware.com > ................................................................ > ....... > ................................................................ > ....... > ......................... > Matching Assistive Technologies with Educational Goals > and Special ARRA Stimulus Offers: www.humanware.com/education > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex Hall [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:51 PM > To: HumanWare Technical Support > Subject: Facebook XMPP chat > > Hello, > One of the major reasons hw decided to go with XMPP in keychat > instead of a network like MSN or AIM was so that, as new networks > emerged using xmpp, we could immediately use them. I thought > this was a bad idea at first, but I now see the wisdom in such a > decision... > Facebook's new XMPP network seemed the perfect test; Google Talk > worked, but you already knew that since a GT example is right in > the ks8 readme. Facebook's network, however, will not work on > the BrailleNote, at least as far as I and another user can tell. > If the idea of supporting XMPP is to give users immediate access > to any XMPP network, then why will Facebook not work? I was quite > disappointed when I found that this was the case; I thought I > would finally see your XMPP-only idea pay off and leave GWM in > the dust, but it seems that either keychat does not have > something right or FB is not doing something right. Since other > clients, such as Miranda IM, are working just fine with FB, I am > leaning toward something being incorrectly programmed in keychat > itself. I ask that this be investigated as soon as possible, not > only so we can start talking to FB friends, but so that HW can > have another selling point: support for the Facebook Chat > network, where GWM notetakers only support the MSN network. > Thanks. > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from BrailleNote > Email: [email protected] > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
