yes I know that. mac uses the darwin 10.4 kernel. you get this by going into 
terminal and type:

uname -a

enter


Josh Kennedy
[email protected]


On Sep 8, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Timothy Clark wrote:

> actually, you could run the basic elemments on a mac as well.
> 
> On 9/8/10, Josh Kennedy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi
>> there already is a notetaker where at least half of the software is released
>> in gpl form. open source. the two notetakers are caled the icon and the
>> braille plus. they run linux and use parts of open source gnome and things.
>> they run linux.
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Kennedy
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> That's a possibility, given that enough developers work on it. If KeySoft
>>> is
>>> released as GPL, I expect users of other PDA's to want companies to
>>> release
>>> their software in open-source form - HIMS interface under Braille Sense,
>>> screen readers and, in the end, operating systems themselves.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:49 AM
>>> To: Joseph Lee
>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] introduction
>>> 
>>> lets gets keysoft and keynote multimedia running on modern windows modern
>>> linux and maybe modern 64bit mac systems. and lets get humanware to listen
>>> to us for once. why pay $6000 for a braillenote when I could get a cheap
>>> netbook for $280 and run Linux with Keysoft on that netbook? keysoft for
>>> Linux will use keynote multimedia for Linux and use brltty for
>>> multilingual
>>> braille on braille displays. the perfect or nearly perfect audio desktop
>>> for
>>> blind folks and even elderly folks who don't require that much. Keysoft
>>> for
>>> 64bit windows and linux and keynote would have a spreadsheet app, web
>>> browser with firefox running underneath and be released under the gnu
>>> public
>>> license like nvda screen reader and knoppix-adriane espeak and vinux.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Josh Kennedy
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I'm not that interested in KeySoft for Windows 95, although I regard it
>>>> as
>>> a
>>>> historical software. My main focus at this point is advocating for SDK
>>> under
>>>> current systems. I personally believe in third-party apps strategy - to
>>>> foster creativity among users and programmers, as well as hacking KeySoft
>>>> under embedded systems to bring out its potentials. Personally, if
>>>> keySoft
>>>> is ported to modern OS's, I'd say there would be mixed reactions to it.
>>> Some
>>>> folks who were used to KeySoft would appreciate this announcement, while
>>>> others might criticize it mostly because more advanced features can be
>>> found
>>>> with other programs. From programmers' perspective, the biggest issues
>>> that
>>>> might rise up are memory usage, algorithms being used and optimization
>>> under
>>>> modern CPU's - which are now 64-bit.
>>>> Tell you what: I'll ask the Blind Programming list to see what the
>>>> programmers think, asking them to contact you off list with the email
>>>> address you've provided.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:32 AM
>>>> To: Joseph Lee
>>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] introduction
>>>> 
>>>> I start capella university in the fall of this year. October 11th. Are
>>>> you
>>>> interested in keysoft for windows95? also can I decompile the very old
>>>> keysoft for windows95 and keynote multimedia back to c++ or assembly so
>>>> maybe volunteers could make them for Windows7 mac and Ubuntu linux and
>>> make
>>>> them even better then call them something else and release them under the
>>>> gnu general public license?
>>>> 
>>>> Josh Kennedy
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Long time no see. Do you still intend to produce programs for it?
>>>>> P.S. How's your online CS classes going?
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Joseph
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh
>>>>> Kennedy
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 6:43 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: [Braillenote] introduction
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd like to introduce myself here quick. First I subscribed in digest
>>>> mode.
>>>>> I'm 28 years old. My wife and I are both blind. We are both humanware
>>>>> customers through voc rehab who baught us braillenotes eight years ago.
>>> My
>>>>> wife baught a used voicenote. But I got mine through voc rehab. I since
>>>> sold
>>>>> it to someone else but we still have my wife's broken voicenote
>>>>> upstairs.
>>>> We
>>>>> don't have the money to get it fixed. I myself am a collector and user
>>>>> of
>>>>> old unsupported outdated software. I use this software by running
>>>> windows3.1
>>>>> through windows98 inside vmware player in Windows and in Vinux with the
>>>> Orca
>>>>> screen reader and on Mac. I strongly believe that old systems and old
>>>>> software can still be useful to people such as windows95 and windows98
>>>>> software as you'll see if you decide to  subscribe to my podcast. Old
>>>>> systems like windows98 and windows95 can benefit less fortunate people
>>> who
>>>>> don't have $4000 or so to spend on a braillenote. I believe it is very
>>>>> important to keep the old software alive through the use of virtual
>>>> machines
>>>>> or vmware. Just like my grandparents still enjoy old 1950s music, so I
>>>> still
>>>>> enjoy and see benefits for windows95 and even windows3.1. I believe that
>>>> we
>>>>> need to keep the old stuff alive and not just throw it away once it is
>>>>> replaced by the latest and greatest stuff.
>>>>> Keysoft and keynote for windows95 are great products and so is the old
>>>>> infovox230. Through my podcast I intend to show people that this
>>>>> software
>>>>> can still be alive and well and that it works great on modern computers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Josh Kennedy
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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