-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:11 PM
To: Joseph Lee
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] this list?

why don't companies just give up their proprietary this is my property
garbage and follow google's business model? if humanware isn't careful its
braille-note will go the way of the dinosaur. 

Josh Kennedy
[email protected]


On Sep 8, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

> Hi,
> The process of transitioning to netbooks has already started, with people
> saying (and I agree) that notetakers would be the relic of past in a
while.
> The introduction of 64-bit embedded systems would further complicate
> matters, as it would add confusion on defining limits of embedded systems
> versus general-purpose computers.
> As for HW taking legal action against Vinux community, I don't think so.
> Although the button labels are the same, I'd say companies are looking for
> possible violation of their source code instead of interface elements - as
> you may know, source code is the real heart of execution and presentation
of
> algorithms.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:04 PM
> To: Joseph Lee
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] this list?
> 
> Hi
> I wonder if just by listening to keynote and infovox230 speech if ESpeak
> could be modified kind of by ear so to speak? there has to be some way to
> get keynote working with linux and windows7. besides if apple and linux
have
> their way apple plus linux plus netbooks will make braillenotes outdated
> things within the next decade. 
> 
> Josh Kennedy
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> 
>> Hi Josh and list,
>> My opinions again...
>> It's not alex - it's the company itself. So much has changed since 1.15
of
>> KNGMM. The algorithms may be the same under KeySoft 9.02.756, but the
>> effects of function calls has shifted to favor embedded systems
>> architecture. Although the processing power of embedded CPU's is
> approaching
>> that of regular computers, the core concept behind its creation and
target
>> users hasn't changed - including core target of KeySoft's algorithms. In
> my
>> thinking and based on experience creating linked lists (in C++), just
>> believing that old code would work on newer standards would not work -
> this
>> is the reason for our hope of optimization to modern architectures.
>> According to an ex-KeySoft developer, it would be somewhat of a difficult
>> task for doing this project, seeing that times have changed and
>> technicalities of porting is not easy. Just my thoughts.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:39 PM
>> To: Joseph Lee
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] this list?
>> 
>> Hi
>> would it be ok or could they give me a full version of keysoft for
> windows95
>> and keynote multimedia for windows95 then? if we could borrow parts from
>> keynote multimedia and infovox230 and incorporate them into espeak espeak
>> would be a much better synthesizer. is alex beck afraid of open source or
>> something? lets say I were a programmer and made something that looked
> like
>> keysoft and it ran in windows7 and linux. humanware's gunna come after
me?
>> this proprietary stuff is a bunch of krap in my opinion. humanware should
>> just adopt the business model of google android and Linux. well maybe
>> someone out there will defy humanware's wishes and make an open source
> clone
>> of keysoft and it will run on Linux and windows7 and then they will make
> an
>> open source keynote multimedia merge it with espeak and merge infovox230
>> with espeak as wel. Well one thing for sure I won't buy from humanware
>> again. the darn company won't even register the windows95 demos that I do
>> haveOk I think I will find volunteers to make an open source keysoft
clone
>> or I'll try my best. but I won't call it keysoft. 
>> I'll call it caysoft. Cay is a low sandy island or something like
> according
>> to the dictionary. 
>> Cay-tts will be its speech. well maybe we could do this. Lets make
> caysoft.
>> we'll keep the original espeak. we'll modify espeak merge keynote and
>> infovox230 into it making espeak better. we'll then call the result
> cay-tts.
>> 
>> caysoft version 1. main menu.
>> cayword menu
>> cayplan
>> caylist
>> cayterm
>> cayCalc
>> instead of saying spelling checker menu it'll say spell-check menu and
> we'll
>> change some other stuff maybe control g to read instead of alt key to
read
>> it'll be control g. I want to tell humanware this. if I were a
programmer,
> I
>> think I know enough about keysoft's interface that if I were a programmer
>> I'm sure I could make an open source keysoft clone. so the question is
> will
>> humanware, with their greed, force me to round up volunteers to make
> caysoft
>> and cay-tts? this will mean the volunteers will have to at least
decompile
>> keynote multimedia somehow. or will humanware register my windows95
demos?
>> humanware is in my opinion greedy they don't like to share. everything's
>> mine its my property its my keysoft. Humanware, keep your hands off of
> Vinux
>> its free open source lets keep it that way. if I want sendero I'll get a
>> windows mobile phone off ebay and get mobilespeak and codefactory's gps
> its
>> cheaper than a braillenote with gps. Then also caysoft and cay-tts will
be
>> multiplatform free open source. 
>> 
>> Josh Kennedy
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> They do - not on the surface. Alex Bec did told me he did see your
>>> proposaland says it cannot be done since KeySoft is the property of
>>> HumanWare.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh
Kennedy
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:03 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [Braillenote] this list?
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> does humanware monitor this braillenote list at all? if so they will
>> surely
>>> see the messages and my podcast won't they? maybe humanware will help us
>>> out? 
>>> 
>>> Josh Kennedy
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> 
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