I would like to clarify to the list that, according to Joseph's searches, it is not possible to support skype on a bn not because hw will not do it, but because of limitations imposed by the skype company itself regarding Windows CE, the underlying operating system for the bn family.
On 12/1/10, Joseph Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > According to my searches, there were some deeper problems with how Skype > works. Not only there is no CE version of Skype, but the audio engine that > Skype uses is no longer supported. In other words, no Skype at this time, > sorry. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy Clark [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:04 PM > To: Joseph Lee > Cc: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home; Rebecca Skipper; > [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Skype on BrailleNote > > even if you could do realtime skype instent messageing that would be a > start. > Come on humanware. You see this list and you know what we the people > want. Not only would the idea help you but blind skype users for once. > Please humanware, make something we the people are requesting for once. > > > On 12/1/10, Joseph Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> Sort of - I'd say. The problem (in my opinion) is making sure that even a >> beginner would understand how something works - even something complicated >> as VOIP technology. >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:48 PM >> To: Joseph Lee; 'Timothy Clark' >> Cc: 'Rebecca Skipper'; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Skype on BrailleNote >> >> It is kind of ironic. Things are so complicated and intricate these days >> that it is hard to make something simple when all that we are looking for > is >> >> something simple. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> >> To: "'Timothy Clark'" <[email protected]> >> Cc: "'Rebecca Skipper'" <[email protected]>; >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:45 PM >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Skype on BrailleNote >> >> >>> Hi, >>> That is what the originator would have had in mind... Even then, in >>> addition >>> to data usage, licensing must be done. I wonder if Skype will even run >>> under >>> CE, since the developer said they are pulling support from CE. >>> Cheers, >>> Joseph >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Timothy Clark [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:35 PM >>> To: Joseph Lee >>> Cc: Rebecca Skipper; [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Skype on BrailleNote >>> >>> you don't need all that stuff. Just the basic skype without video. >>> Even chatting would be ok.like key skype. lol. >>> >>> On 11/30/10, Joseph Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I'd personally say it is certaintly possible to do it - the problems >>>> would >>>> be ones Alex has mentioned below. In terms of hardware, I'd say it'll >>>> come >>>> to fruition if it is confirmed that KeySoft is indeed utilizing the >>>> available hardware resources. A major problem (actually two) is that it >>>> would only work well on Apex alone due to hardware and OS configuration. >>> The >>>> other problem might be a misconception that just because Skype works > does >>>> not mean other VOIP software will "simply run" on Apex. The first > concern >>>> deals with what Alex said; the second concern is mostly confusion >>> associated >>>> with programmability and compatibility. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Joseph >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rebecca >>> Skipper >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:14 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: [Braillenote] Skype on BrailleNote >>>> >>>> Even if HumanWare is willing to support the use of skype on a >>>> BrailleNote, is it possible given the current hardware and firmware used >>> in >>>> the units? Is it possible to collaborate with skype developers? >>> HumanWare >>>> and skype developers would need to see if their application codes are >>>> compatible, right? And what happens when skype updates firmware? To my >>>> knowledge, video conferencing would not be an option. >>>> Becky >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>> [email protected] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:00 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Braillenote Digest, Vol 2523, Issue 1 >>>> >>>> Send Braillenote mailing list submissions to >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >>>> "Re: Contents of Braillenote digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Removing formatting indicators. (Allison Mervis) >>>> 2. Re: Removing formatting indicators. (Alex Hall) >>>> 3. REALLY could use skype on the apex! (dreicer, zachary) >>>> 4. RE: REALLY could use skype on the apex! (Joseph Lee) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:45:03 -0500 >>>> From: "Allison Mervis" <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [Braillenote] Removing formatting indicators. >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Message-ID: <005501cb9030$363787f0$a2a697...@com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Hi everyone! >>>> >>>> I'm absolutely loving my PK, but to be blunt, the formatting indicators >>>> in >>>> the word processor are driving me insane. The manual doesn't seem to >>>> describe how to suppress them or disable them entirely, and I'm not even >>>> sure if it's possible to do so. Ideally, I would like the content on the >>>> PK's display to look similar to that which is produced by a screen > reader >>>> like Jaws or WindowEyes. Any and all assistance would be greatly >>>> appreciated. Thanks very much. >>>> >>>> Allison >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.allisonmervis.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:56:55 -0500 >>>> From: Alex Hall <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Removing formatting indicators. >>>> To: Allison Mervis <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>>> >>>> Try this: >>>> 1. Open a document in keyword (any document will do, as the settings we >>> are >>>> going to change are global but only show up in keyword). >>>> 2. Go to options (space-o) and select braille options by pressing b. >>>> 3. Move down to the "show new lines as" option and select one by >>> repeatedly >>>> pressing space-3-4. I have mine set to indent one cell, so new lines > will >>>> appear not as ed sign p, but rather as a space on the left edge of the >>>> display. Pick whichever you want, then hit enter and exit the menus. >>>> >>>> On 11/29/10, Allison Mervis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi everyone! >>>>> >>>>> I'm absolutely loving my PK, but to be blunt, the formatting >>>>> indicators in the word processor are driving me insane. The manual >>>>> doesn't seem to describe how to suppress them or disable them >>>>> entirely, and I'm not even sure if it's possible to do so. Ideally, I >>>>> would like the content on the PK's display to look similar to that >>>>> which is produced by a screen reader like Jaws or WindowEyes. Any and >>>>> all assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much. >>>>> >>>>> Allison >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.allisonmervis.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the >>>>> list as well. >>>>> >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:53:57 -0700 >>>> From: "dreicer, zachary" <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [Braillenote] REALLY could use skype on the apex! >>>> To: Braillenote <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: HumanWare Technical Support <[email protected]> >>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Hi, I would like, some day, to see skype on the apex. I brought >>>> this up on the braillenote list before, but people said that >>>> there are not hw staff being active on the list. So I decided to >>>> copy you as well. Can you please try to integrate at least IM >>>> and voice chat for skype on the braillenote, possibly redoing >>>> keychat so that one has the option for keychat or skype? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:43:27 -0800 >>>> From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] REALLY could use skype on the apex! >>>> To: "'dreicer, zachary'" <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Huh? Any experts, could someone enlighten this dude please????? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dreicer, >>>> zachary >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:54 AM >>>> To: Braillenote >>>> Cc: HumanWare Technical Support >>>> Subject: [Braillenote] REALLY could use skype on the apex! >>>> >>>> Hi, I would like, some day, to see skype on the apex. I brought >>>> this up on the braillenote list before, but people said that >>>> there are not hw staff being active on the list. So I decided to >>>> copy you as well. Can you please try to integrate at least IM >>>> and voice chat for skype on the braillenote, possibly redoing >>>> keychat so that one has the option for keychat or skype? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>> copy to the list as well. >>>> >>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>> >>>> >>>> End of Braillenote Digest, Vol 2523, Issue 1 >>>> ******************************************** >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>> copy to the list as well. >>>> >>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>> copy to the list as well. >>>> >>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Timothy Clark, Owner and Manijor of WTCN Radio. Located on the web at, >>> http://s8.myradiostream.com/18926.htm >>> Skypes, personal >>> djtimothy1 >>> musician work and productions timothyclarkofficial >>> Radio station, wtcn.radio >>> God Bless >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>> copy to the list as well. >>> >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [email protected] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Timothy Clark, Owner and Manijor of WTCN Radio. Located on the web at, > http://s8.myradiostream.com/18926.htm > Skypes, personal > djtimothy1 > musician work and productions timothyclarkofficial > Radio station, wtcn.radio > God Bless > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
