On 12/29/10, Joseph Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > A good suggestion - which cannot be expressed in words alone - both to the > user and companies. Rewriting setup with our features in mind means a > fundamental strategy change and code programming, and keeping it this way > (closed) would mean chance of loss of momentum on development of a device > like this. > Because of the space issue, I'll stop here - I'll write more about it on the > next post... > Cheers, > Joseph > > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy Clark [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:06 PM > To: Joseph Lee > Cc: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home; Josh Gregory; Braillenote > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] suggestion to enhance keymail > > HW should rewrite their set up with our feetures in mind. > > On 12/28/10, Joseph Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> If I understand right, what Josh is suggesting is using realtime email >> notifications - which is somewhat doable yet not quite possible under the >> unit in question. Email communication is handled not by KeySoft, but by >> Connection Manager (connmgr), quite similar in "appearance" to what we > have >> with chat notifications. However, because of the way KeySoft is written, >> it's not really possible to emulate not all realtime functionality of >> getting notification sounds for email. >> >> Are there options to solving this dilemma? Certaintly - reusing > components, >> allowing KeyMail part of KeySoft to get messages from email handler > saying, >> "ask the operating system to sound this sound when new message arrives" > and >> so on. Of these, I believe it'll be slightly easier for HumanWare >> programmers to reuse notification components under KeyChat in KeyMail i.e. >> allow users to do something when new email arrives. I can see two options >> coming to mind: something similar to KeyChat where user will be prompted > to >> do something when new message arrives, or adding a status text after >> "KeyMail Menu" is displayed to let users know how many new message it has >> received. The former method could include an option to not prompt for >> options but display number of new messages and/or play a sound, and the >> second method would be similar to what we have with Database Manager - >> displaying the name of the database file after "KeyBase Menu" is spoken. > In >> simple terms, either of these cases (using status notifications or sounds > to >> indicate new messages) means almost fundamental change to how we view and >> use email on the BrailleNote (and I can see it coming in near future). >> >> As a small test: for those who think they understood this picture, please >> explain it using simple words... >> >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicole B. >> Torcolini at Home >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:47 AM >> To: Josh Gregory; Braillenote >> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] suggestion to enhance keymail >> >> I do not think that this is possible at this time. Unless I am >> misunderstanding part of the bn system, here's what's going on. >> >> The bn can only really run one program at a time, with a few exceptions. >> When you are receiving email, that is all that your bn is doing. It is not >> like computer based email programs that sit in the background, waiting for >> mail. You have to go tell your bn to receive email. Unless hw adds a > feature >> >> that allows email to process in the background, this is not possible at > this >> >> time. >> >> HTH, >> Nicole >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Josh Gregory" <[email protected]> >> To: "Braillenote" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:43 AM >> Subject: [Braillenote] suggestion to enhance keymail >> >> >>> Hi, >>> My friend and I were talking yesterday and he asked if KeyMail alerts you >>> when you get new email. I told him no, but I told him that was a >>> suggestion I had for HW. I've had it for a while but haven't posted it. >>> So I guess my question is: Would that be something that HW could add to >>> KeyMail to enhance its usability (I mean even a sound notification would >>> be nice just to let you know you have an email, it's really annoying to >>> check my email, see something someone sent me and then find out it was >>> sent, say, two hours earlier). >>> Thoughts? >>> Thanks, >>> Josh >>> PS: What I mean by "alert" is like when your computer makes that sound to >>> tell you that you have a new email. Then, you check and that email is in >>> your InBox. >>> >>> ___ >>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>> copy to the list as well. >>> >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [email protected] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> > > > -- > WTCN Management > http://wtcnradio.webs.com > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > Hi, everybody.
Looking at all the posts about this Keymail suggestion I posted, I see a reoccuring theme. The "geeks" of the list are educating me, and I thank you guys. It looks like, much to my surprise, that it will take a total rewriting of the KS program in order to make the BN check email in the background. So I'm going to drop the whole thing, since it's just going to be too complicated to do under the current circumstances. I think we can all just forget about that suggestion for now and maybe HW could put it on the back burner for when they write another program. That's what I think, but that's just me. Have a great day! Chris ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
