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To: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [Braillenote] explain android technology in simple terms?
The idea of my braillenote not having braille keys does not appeal at all. You are forgetting people with touch and dexterity problems for who touch screens are hard work. I hope that if touch braillenotes came in to being that there would be a keypad version as there is an option now for bt or qt. I personally finding the era of the touch phone/pda not vary accessible and am really hoping that the roomer of the new iphone having a slide out keypad is true or i will always be behind in cellphone technology becoz of lack of built in keyboards. A wireless keypad and a pda is to much for compact all in one use.Louise. On 04/04/2011 23:36, Joseph Lee wrote:Hi, I expect this to be costly at first, but if there would be a way to integrate this tactile chip into these devices, then I can see the cost coming down drastically. The concept of "multitouch" would be useful for braille input, as it would require at most six to eight gestures on the screen at once to input braille, with various input drivers such as current perkins-style or portrait braille input mode using two rows of a telephone keypad. In connection with BrailleNote, the appearance of this 2D braille touchscreen will spell the end of notetakers as we know it. And if a mainstream company produces a way to interact with this technology, then HIMS will be out of business, since their SDK will be meaningless (sorry for Braille Sense users...); all we (the programmers) need would just be the regular SDK for that particular operating system and a toolkit to interact with the touchscreen braille input/output (i/o) - simple as writing "hello world" using a braille output algorithm, similar to prinf() in C, cout in C++ and write"" routines in Python (programming languages). I'll reserve a possible program of this kind until later using a pseudo braille i/o code. Did I lose you? My apologies if I talk too fast... For more info on this, I suggest that we have a general discussion about this somewhere else... Cheers, Joseph On 4/4/11, Alex Hall<[email protected]> wrote:Well, my desperate hope is that this emerging technology can be integrated into current devices, like Apple's iTouch line or other tablets and phones. At the very least, though, it could be made into a custom package from an assistive tech company like hw. Imagine a braillenote with just this e-sense display on top and a touch screen below (no graphics, just the ability to feel gestures). Display all braille, show a keyboard, show graphs, maps, and so much more... even switch from qwerty to braille input! So much is possible! I did ask hw if they were looking into this, and all they said was that they were "looking into this exciting technology". I also emailed Apple about it and just got their standard response. On 4/4/11, David Meador<[email protected]> wrote:Ok. a topic for others to join in and share their thinking as to possible uses for a newly developing technology. In response to Peter's question, Alex, you opened my mind with your answer regarding Google's Android smart-phone technology and its use with a burgenning form of new Technology impacting the blind. I used mPower to locate on the web the HTTP URL describing the Toshiba supported company called Sensing. Indeed the use of haptics (whatever that means) plus ticsals sounds like breakthrough technology for braille readers and non-readers and even the general public. But the question not answered on the site is, How? Alex, have you heard of any specific applications, such as elimination of the braille keyboard as we know it? Or perhaps easier use of the microwave, washing machine, tv and other flat screen panels which currently are a pain for the blind? But get this. There seems to be other space-age uses on the way? These are my own speculations. Perhaps I'm off base. But maybe some of you can elaborate or speculate further. Here are my thoughts. Multi-use ticsals, ticsals and more ticsals? Just down the pike, we may see Home use beach-ball size world globes for teaching by tactal applications blind children and adults alike the actual quote unquote "look" of this world of ours. Such a world globe could likewise be made standard fare built in as a flat screen on every blind student's desk. Literally, the entire top of the desk could be used to tactically and verbally depict the five continents, all oceans, the ever-changing middle East, and perhaps the capability of zooming in on the specifics of any one country for descriptions of geography, population, culture, and climate? Science, mathmatics, composition, music, engineering, even the arts could be more fully and dynamically taught much the same way. What a boon for improving teacher student interaction or capability for students as well as adults doing research throughout a lifetime of learning. Am I just dreaming here? Or are we about to enter a world of ticsals, ticsals and more ticsals! David Beyond Vision Nashville, TN 615-385-0784 www.davidmeador.com----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Hall<[email protected] To: peter greco<[email protected] Date sent: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 07:45:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Braillenote] explain android technology in simpleterms?Android is an operating system designed by Google. It startedout asbeing for smartphones only, but has now been expanded (as of 3.0)toinclude tablets as well. It is open-source, meaning that anyonecanlook at all the source code and create their own versions of itifthey want to. This is what cell phone manufacturers do; theywritecustom modifications to Android to put on the phones they make.The Orion has its own customized version of Android, one modifiedforbraille input/output and other features (like working on thehardwareused by the Orion). It is not a tablet at all; it is more like a voice-only braille pda (18 cell display version is alsoavailable). Atablet refers to a device, usually with a screen size between 5and 10inches, that has a touch screen and normally has no keyboard.Examplesinclude the iPad, Galaxy Tab, Playbook, and more. A brailletablet iscurrently impossible to produce, in the normal sense of the word 'tablet', because there would be little advantage to building inadisplay and keyboard; at that point, you basically have a larger device that happens to have a touch screen, so you have removedtheadvantages of the tablet (light, portable, touch screen only).Thisall could change if and when the new haptics come out, from http://www.senseg.com and others, and we have the ability fortouchscreens to display graphics and braille in real-time with no moreneedfor expensive refreshable displays.On 4/4/11, peter greco<[email protected]> wrote:Can someone please explain android technology in simple termsandhow it either does or doesn't relate to say the Apex? It's been mentioned in context of what the Orion may be? It, the Orion isn't a notetaker, but a braille tablet? Any explanations would be great! Peter___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. 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