All of this is still speculation, of course. The idea is that the e-sense film on top of the device can mimic the feel of a braille keyboard, qwerty keyboard, or anything else. It would feel normal, except that you would really be typing on a smooth surface which would not feel smooth at all. It is like how a monitor can display graphics, even 3d ones, yet the glass is still smooth. The advantage of sense-g is that we could have as much or as little braille as we want, any keyboard at any size, drawings, maps, graphs...
On 4/5/11, Terri Pannett <[email protected]> wrote: > I want a keyboard, preferably qwerty, but I could handle braille keyboards, > too. I don't have the patience to mess around with touch screens. I > discovered that I don't like SmartPhones, either. I'm very old-fashioned I > suppose, but I want a cell phone to be a phone, a BN to be a BN, a PC to be > a PC, a ham radio to be a radio, a brailler to be a brailler and so on. > Devices which are supposed to do everything use up more battery life and > they're too complicated to use. > > Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "crazy-shawty aka everything you're muther wanted you to be but you > aintquite turned out like me?" <[email protected]> > To: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:54 AM > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] explain android technology in simple terms? > > >> The idea of my braillenote not having braille keys does not appeal at all. >> >> You are forgetting people with touch and dexterity problems for who touch >> screens are hard work. I hope that if touch braillenotes came in to being >> that there would be a keypad version as there is an option now for bt or >> qt. >> I personally finding the era of the touch phone/pda not vary accessible >> and am really hoping that the roomer of the new iphone having a slide out >> keypad is true or i will always be behind in cellphone technology becoz of >> >> lack of built in keyboards. A wireless keypad and a pda is to much for >> compact all in one use. >> Louise. >> >> On 04/04/2011 23:36, Joseph Lee wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I expect this to be costly at first, but if there would be a way to >>> integrate this tactile chip into these devices, then I can see the >>> cost coming down drastically. The concept of "multitouch" would be >>> useful for braille input, as it would require at most six to eight >>> gestures on the screen at once to input braille, with various input >>> drivers such as current perkins-style or portrait braille input mode >>> using two rows of a telephone keypad. >>> In connection with BrailleNote, the appearance of this 2D braille >>> touchscreen will spell the end of notetakers as we know it. And if a >>> mainstream company produces a way to interact with this technology, >>> then HIMS will be out of business, since their SDK will be meaningless >>> (sorry for Braille Sense users...); all we (the programmers) need >>> would just be the regular SDK for that particular operating system and >>> a toolkit to interact with the touchscreen braille input/output (i/o) >>> - simple as writing "hello world" using a braille output algorithm, >>> similar to prinf() in C, cout in C++ and write"" routines in Python >>> (programming languages). I'll reserve a possible program of this kind >>> until later using a pseudo braille i/o code. >>> Did I lose you? My apologies if I talk too fast... For more info on >>> this, I suggest that we have a general discussion about this somewhere >>> else... >>> Cheers, >>> Joseph >>> >>> On 4/4/11, Alex Hall<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Well, my desperate hope is that this emerging technology can be >>>> integrated into current devices, like Apple's iTouch line or other >>>> tablets and phones. At the very least, though, it could be made into a >>>> custom package from an assistive tech company like hw. Imagine a >>>> braillenote with just this e-sense display on top and a touch screen >>>> below (no graphics, just the ability to feel gestures). Display all >>>> braille, show a keyboard, show graphs, maps, and so much more... even >>>> switch from qwerty to braille input! So much is possible! I did ask hw >>>> if they were looking into this, and all they said was that they were >>>> "looking into this exciting technology". I also emailed Apple about it >>>> and just got their standard response. >>>> >>>> On 4/4/11, David Meador<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Ok. a topic for others to join in and share their thinking as to >>>>> possible uses for a newly developing technology. >>>>> >>>>> In response to Peter's question, Alex, you opened my mind with >>>>> your answer regarding Google's Android smart-phone technology and >>>>> its use with a burgenning form of new Technology impacting the >>>>> blind. I used mPower to locate on the web the HTTP URL >>>>> describing the Toshiba supported company called Sensing. Indeed >>>>> the use of haptics (whatever that means) plus ticsals sounds like >>>>> breakthrough technology for braille readers and non-readers and >>>>> even the general public. But the question not answered on the >>>>> site is, How? Alex, have you heard of any specific applications, >>>>> such as elimination of the braille keyboard as we know it? Or >>>>> perhaps easier use of the microwave, washing machine, tv and >>>>> other flat screen panels which currently are a pain for the >>>>> blind? >>>>> >>>>> But get this. There seems to be other space-age uses on the way? >>>>> These are my own speculations. Perhaps I'm off base. But maybe >>>>> some of you can elaborate or speculate further. Here are my >>>>> thoughts. >>>>> >>>>> Multi-use ticsals, ticsals and more ticsals? Just down the pike, >>>>> we may see Home use beach-ball size world globes for teaching by >>>>> tactal applications blind children and adults alike the actual >>>>> quote unquote "look" of this world of ours. Such a world globe >>>>> could likewise be made standard fare built in as a flat screen on >>>>> every blind student's desk. Literally, the entire top of the >>>>> desk could be used to tactically and verbally depict the five >>>>> continents, all oceans, the ever-changing middle East, and >>>>> perhaps the capability of zooming in on the specifics of any one >>>>> country for descriptions of geography, population, culture, and >>>>> climate? Science, mathmatics, composition, music, engineering, >>>>> even the arts could be more fully and dynamically taught much the >>>>> same way. What a boon for improving teacher student interaction >>>>> or capability for students as well as adults doing research >>>>> throughout a lifetime of learning. >>>>> >>>>> Am I just dreaming here? Or are we about to enter a world of >>>>> ticsals, ticsals and more ticsals! >>>>> >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Beyond Vision >>>>> Nashville, TN 615-385-0784 >>>>> www.davidmeador.com >>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Alex Hall<[email protected] >>>>>> To: peter greco<[email protected] >>>>>> Date sent: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 07:45:42 -0400 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] explain android technology in simple >>>>> terms? >>>>> >>>>>> Android is an operating system designed by Google. It started >>>>> out as >>>>>> being for smartphones only, but has now been expanded (as of 3.0) >>>>> to >>>>>> include tablets as well. It is open-source, meaning that anyone >>>>> can >>>>>> look at all the source code and create their own versions of it >>>>> if >>>>>> they want to. This is what cell phone manufacturers do; they >>>>> write >>>>>> custom modifications to Android to put on the phones they make. >>>>> >>>>>> The Orion has its own customized version of Android, one modified >>>>> for >>>>>> braille input/output and other features (like working on the >>>>> hardware >>>>>> used by the Orion). It is not a tablet at all; it is more like a >>>>>> voice-only braille pda (18 cell display version is also >>>>> available). A >>>>>> tablet refers to a device, usually with a screen size between 5 >>>>> and 10 >>>>>> inches, that has a touch screen and normally has no keyboard. >>>>> Examples >>>>>> include the iPad, Galaxy Tab, Playbook, and more. A braille >>>>> tablet is >>>>>> currently impossible to produce, in the normal sense of the word >>>>>> 'tablet', because there would be little advantage to building in >>>>> a >>>>>> display and keyboard; at that point, you basically have a larger >>>>>> device that happens to have a touch screen, so you have removed >>>>> the >>>>>> advantages of the tablet (light, portable, touch screen only). >>>>> This >>>>>> all could change if and when the new haptics come out, from >>>>>> http://www.senseg.com and others, and we have the ability for >>>>> touch >>>>>> screens to display graphics and braille in real-time with no more >>>>> need >>>>>> for expensive refreshable displays. >>>>> >>>>>> On 4/4/11, peter greco<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Can someone please explain android technology in simple terms >>>>> and >>>>>>> how it either does or doesn't relate to say the Apex? >>>>>>> It's been mentioned in context of what the Orion may be? 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