It happens to me even if my unit has been on for hrs. I don't
think it has to do with time. I think there is something set
wrong or there is a corrupt file or something.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "meir barbi ???? ????" <[email protected]
To: "jessica" <[email protected]
Date sent: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:26:45 +0200
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] error 10050
may be in any case you have to wait for 2 or 3 minutes after
turnung your
unit on.
meir sameah lesameah your musician for all kinds of semachot!!!
???? ??? ???? ??? ???? ????? ???????? ???? ????? ??????? ???
??????.
0547-547320
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----- Original Message -----
From: "jessica" <[email protected]
To: "meir barbi ???? ????" <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:39 PM
Subject: re: [Braillenote] error 10050
What if you are using a wired network not a wireless one? I get
this error
on both wired and wireless networks.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "meir barbi ???? ????" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Date sent: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 08:44:38 +0200
Subject: [Braillenote] error 10050
hi!
this error is while you turn on the bn gennarly.
you have to wait for a longer time until you get into the
internet until
it
synchronized with the wireless network.
this error may be also because you are far from your router.
meir sameah lesameah your musician for all kinds of semachot!!!
???? ??? ???? ??? ???? ????? ???????? ???? ????? ??????? ???
??????.
0547-547320
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13. Answers to recent questions part 2 and some thoughts
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14. Help with voice recognition (Jesse)
15. Error 10050 (Lucy Sirianni)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:14:06 -0500
From: Snow Bunny <[email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] USB mike use
To: [email protected]
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Hi, I'm going into voice-over work and the industry standard is
use of
a USB mike, is this possible with the Apex? Thanks. Beth
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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:15:43 -0500
From: Snow Bunny <[email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] Apex usability with Serotek products
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Hi, I understand that the Brailliant is usable with Serotek's
System
Access screen reader and with their System Access Mobile
Network, how
about the Apex? Thanks. Beth
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 14:55:52 +1300
From: Jesse <[email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] help with bluetooth
To: [email protected]
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 21:26:10 -0500
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] help with bluetooth
To: Jesse <[email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
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On 3/6/12, Jesse <[email protected]> wrote:
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 16:02:53 +1300
From: Jesse <[email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] Help getting things sent via bluetooth
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi.
When I get things sent via bluetooth, what is my bn supposed to
do while something is beeing sent to it?
And where are the bluetoothed items stored?
Please write back and tell me.
Thanks.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:40:51 -0800
From: jessica <[email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] Can't log in to hotmail.
To: bn <[email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi. I tried to log in to my hotmail account. I have scripting on
because it told me it had to be on. I put in my email address
and
password and I can't get past the security alert dialog. I hit
the yes button about 10 times and the dialog keeps coming back.
Does anyone know how to get past the dialog box? I am trying to
log in at hotmail.com. Is that even the right place? Thanks.
sent from my BrailleNote
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:05:39 -0800
From: jessica <[email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] put songs on an iPod.
To: bn <[email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi. I understand that you can't use iTunes with the bn, But is
there a way to put songs on the iPod from the bn without iTunes?
My iPod comes up on my bn like a hard disk so I copied music on
to it and it wont play. It is a 4 gb iPod shuffle. Any
suggestions?
sent from my BrailleNote
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 23:10:25 -0500
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] put songs on an iPod.
To: jessica <[email protected]
Cc: bn <[email protected]
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I doubt it. If it is like the iPod Touch, it uses a special
music
database format that only iTunes can handle, so copying files
won't
add them to the music database.
On 3/6/12, jessica <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi. I understand that you can't use iTunes with the bn, But is
there a way to put songs on the iPod from the bn without iTunes?
My iPod comes up on my bn like a hard disk so I copied music on
to it and it wont play. It is a 4 gb iPod shuffle. Any
suggestions?
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 23:12:21 -0500
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Help getting things sent via
bluetooth
To: Jesse <[email protected]
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The apex cannot handle bluetooth file transfers at this time.
This was
one of those "the apex has the potential to do it" things hw
said we
would be seeing as time went on, but it never came aout. Sorry,
and
please email [email protected] to ask them to add this,
especially
as the apex has everything in place already except the keysoft
component.
On 3/6/12, Jesse <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi.
When I get things sent via bluetooth, what is my bn supposed to
do while something is beeing sent to it?
And where are the bluetoothed items stored?
Please write back and tell me.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:35:47 -0800
From: jessica <[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] put songs on an iPod.
To: Alex Hall <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
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Yes. The iPod shuffle does have a special database. I have been
reading about it on the internet. There is a database rebuilder
that other people have used. It lets you copy music on to the
iPod and then it rebuilds the database to match the files and
folders on your iPod. Do you think there would be a way to use
this with the apex? Instructions, reviews and a zip file with
more detailed instructions and the actual program can be found
at
sourceforge.net/projects/shuffle-db/files/. Can you have a look
and let me know what you think?
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From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
To: jessica <[email protected]
Date sent: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 23:10:25 -0500
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] put songs on an iPod.
I doubt it. If it is like the iPod Touch, it uses a special
music
database format that only iTunes can handle, so copying files
won't
add them to the music database.
On 3/6/12, jessica <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi. I understand that you can't use iTunes with the bn, But is
there a way to put songs on the iPod from the bn without iTunes?
My iPod comes up on my bn like a hard disk so I copied music on
to it and it wont play. It is a 4 gb iPod shuffle. Any
suggestions?
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:43:51 -0800
From: jessica <[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Can't log in to hotmail.
To: Ezzy <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
I tried that and it is telling me that this account does not
have
an outlook web ap mail box. What does this mean and how do I get
an outlook web ap mail box?
sent from my BrailleNote
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From: Ezzy <[email protected]
To: jessica <[email protected]
Date sent: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 20:12:00 -0800
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Can't log in to hotmail.
Try going to www.outlook.com and type your Hotmail email address
and password. You shouldn't get too many security alerts that
way.
Normally, you can get past the security alerts by pressing Space
with E.
HTH,
Ezzie
On Mar 6, 2012, at 7:40 PM, jessica wrote:
Hi. I tried to log in to my hotmail account. I have scripting on
because it told me it had to be on. I put in my email address
and
password and I can't get past the security alert dialog. I hit
the yes button about 10 times and the dialog keeps coming back.
Does anyone know how to get past the dialog box? I am trying to
log in at hotmail.com. Is that even the right place? Thanks.
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 04:11:30 -0800
From: Joseph Lee <[email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] Answers to recent quereis part 1
To: braille-note email list <[email protected]
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Hi folks,
Few answers on recent questions follows:
* USB drive format: No, not availible.
* USB mouse: No.
* USB mike: Not usable.
* iPod Database Builder: It'll not run under BrailleNote at all.
* Apex battery issue (sorry for the late reply): Leave the unit
charging for about ten minutes, then try resetting the unit
(warm
reset) with the AC adapter connected.
* Battery recalibration (again sorry for the late answer): From
anywhere in KeySoft, go to Options Menu, then go to Support
Information Mode, then press F. Leave the unit charging for a
few
hours until 100% is shown. Then disconnect the charger and let
the BN
talk until it dies, then reconnect the charger.
* File searching: Not availible directly, although by looking at
recent folders and files, you can find out where the file is.
Cheers,
Joseph
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 05:04:19 -0800
From: Joseph Lee <[email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] Answers to recent questions part 2 and
some
thoughts
To: braille-note email list <[email protected]
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Hi folks,
I guess the following would be more towards explanations and
rants...
Games, games and more games: I guess, even for busybodies like
us, we
need some time for recreation, and one of the useful recreations
is
games. Some of us are dreaming about our next project - games,
mobile
apps and so forth. For those of us who are thinking about game
creation, I'm sorry to tell you that you cannot really write and
execute game code on your BN for a VERY important reason:
there's no
compiler that'll run under BrailleNote (even for inForm
language).
Although we could try Javascript, that won't solve our problem
of
"native" development that'll take full advantage of BN's
hardware (for
instance, we don't see a way to access file system using JS, nor
the
version of JS in use is different from desktop browsers).
As for the claims of "Javascript being a universal programming
language", I'd like to cordially disagree: According to web
searches
and from what I've learned so far, in order for a language to be
universal, it needs to fulfill the following requirements:
versatile
for all systems, adoptable to wide range of problems and
expressible
in wide circumstances (even using ambiguous code for
algorithms).
Because Javascript is a language designed for specific
circumstances
and there's no proof of system software written in Javascript,
it does
not qualify as a "universal language". As of 2012, there's no
such
thing, although we have close candidates like C++, Java (not JS)
and
C.
As for the question on why we can't just write game code in
English
and run it: computers are, in a sense, just a collection of
silicon
(or something that emulates one). For all computers, the only
thing
they know are "electronic switches" and whether it should be on
or
off. To facilitate this, they use zero's and one's to represent
which
switch should be on (1) or off (0). For instance, the following
group
of bits (binary digits) could mean, depending on the computer
(rather,
the processor):
01111111100011110000000011111101
To one machine, it could mean read a character stored somewhere
on
RAM, while it could mean multiply two numbers together on
another one.
Still, to another, it could mean decode videos for playback,
while the
fourth one would happily go about finding out which USB device
was
connected when reading this instruction.
As the picture illustrates, each processor (processor family, in
fact)
has its own machine language (set of binary patterns which cause
it to
do something). This is true for both physical and virtual
machines
(sometimes called interpreter, VM's, emulators, etc.). As it
turns
out, each character on the keyboard has its own bit pattern (for
example, the uppercase A would be represented as ASCII 65, which
is
01000001 in binary).
As for compiling: Suppose if we wish to write a program that
displays
some message on the braille display. Now wouldn't it be
beneficial if
we write something like:
say "my name is something"
in KeyWord (wordprocessor) and when this program is run by
another
program, would print the message in quotes to the braille
display?
That won't be the case for majority of cases: simply because the
machine can't understand a series of English characters because
it
only knows 0's and 1's. If we do attempt to run this program, it
won't
run at all (for most cases because the OS knows that the correct
startup routine was not found), or in old days, do something
unexpected such as deleting the file you were reading because of
misinterpretation by the machine. And imagine using more than
one
processor (from different companies) with their own machine
codes -
you don't want to think about it (and, in most of our cases, its
true
because X64 code (the ones found on Mac's and PC's from Intel
and AMD)
is way different than ARM machine code (ones found in various
Android
devices and BrailleNote), and Java bytecode (the code that Java
source
code are compiled to) is different than say, a code compiled for
Windows CE devices written in C# (C-Sharp). Even in interpreted
languages (say, inForm emulator code), an interpreter for
Android
devices won't accept an inForm (Z-machine) code and vice versa
unless
there is a Z-machine code interpreter written in Java that runs
on
Android's interpreter (technically the ARM code using a process
called
"just in time compilation where interpreter code is transformed
to ARM
or machine code when it starts running). And a good rule of
thumb is
that interpreted code (some people would call it "managed code")
runs
slightly slower than machine (or native) code executables.
In our context, an inForm (source) code written on the
BrailleNote
will not run unless transformed into a code that the Z-code
interpreter accepts, hence my answer above: that you cannot do
game
development in inForm on the BrailleNote alone; to finish your
product, you need to compile it on your PC and test it on your
BN. And
in order for this to work, you need KeySoft 7.0 and higher.
As for the rest of the story about compilers/interpreters and
how
C++/Java/BASIC/Python (and what not) source code is transformed
to
zero's and one's so the machine can work with it, I'll not
answer it
here (this kind of discussion is, in my opinion, reserved for
programming lists). But for now, I think the above answer would
be
sufficient (if you need more detailed
analysis/proof/explanations,
please email me or Alex H (or any programmers here) offlist).
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Joseph
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 12:42:18 -0800
From: Jesse <[email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] Help with voice recognition
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi.
Can anyone tell me, if the bn has voice recognition so you can
just tell the apex what to write?
Thanks.
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 13:01:31 -0800
From: Lucy Sirianni <[email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] Error 10050
To: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Dear all,
Oftentimes when I check my email, my BrailleNote displays the
message, "Error connecting to pop server: error 10050". A reset
does solve the problem, but it would be nice to avoid the
situation altogether, especially as it occurs quite frequently.
I have an Apex BT, and since this has happened with several
wireless networks, I'm assuming the problem is likely with the
BrailleNote or its settings and not with a specific wireless
network.
Thanks for any suggestions!
Lucy
------------------------------
Message: 16
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:45:13 -0800
From: Jessica Brown <[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Error 10050
To: Lucy Sirianni <[email protected]>,
[email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]
om
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I get that error message lots of times to so I can tell you that
it is
not a problem that only you are having. I don't know how to fix
it.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
On 3/7/12, Lucy Sirianni <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear all,
Oftentimes when I check my email, my BrailleNote displays the
message, "Error connecting to pop server: error 10050". A reset
does solve the problem, but it would be nice to avoid the
situation altogether, especially as it occurs quite frequently.
I have an Apex BT, and since this has happened with several
wireless networks, I'm assuming the problem is likely with the
BrailleNote or its settings and not with a specific wireless
network.
Thanks for any suggestions!
Lucy
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:46:44 -0800
From: Jessica Brown <[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Help with voice recognition
To: Jesse <[email protected]>,
[email protected]
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No. Sorry. The Apex can't do voice recognition. Typing is the
only way.
On 3/7/12, Jesse <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi.
Can anyone tell me, if the bn has voice recognition so you can
just tell the apex what to write?
Thanks.
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 11:54:44 +1300
From: Charlie Smith <[email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] I would like to know
To: [email protected]
Message-ID:
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Hi all.
I would like to know, just out of curiocity, how to use cmd.exe,
wceload.exe and btloader.exe.
Does anyone know how to use these?. Because if so, Could you
awesomes
let me know please. But if not, that is ok also. I know how
great you
all are.
Yours sincerely
Charlie Smith
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 14:56:55 -0800
From: Jessica Brown <[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] I would like to know
To: Charlie Smith <[email protected]>,
[email protected]
Message-ID:
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om
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Yes. I would like to know how to use them as well.
On 3/7/12, Charlie Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all.
I would like to know, just out of curiocity, how to use cmd.exe,
wceload.exe and btloader.exe.
Does anyone know how to use these?. Because if so, Could you
awesomes
let me know please. But if not, that is ok also. I know how
great you
all are.
Yours sincerely
Charlie Smith
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