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Today's Topics:
1. re: interesting question (Austin Diepenhorst)
2. Braille Display with NVDA (Marvin)
3. apex and jaws commands (Armando Maldonado)
4. Keyboard Emulator in Terminal Mode (Marvin)
5. Re: More Braille display issues; please help!! (Alex Hall)
6. Re: interesting question (Alex Hall)
7. RE: Keyboard Emulator in Terminal Mode (Joseph Lee)
8. saving files to Apex (Lisa D Porter)
9. re: saving files to Apex (Austin Diepenhorst)
10. Re: interesting question (Terri Pannett)
11. Apex repairs (Grant Hardy)
12. Re: Apex repairs (Grant Hardy)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 18:01:50 -0700
From: Austin Diepenhorst <[email protected]>
Subject: re: [Braillenote] interesting question
To: Richard Fiorello <[email protected]>,
[email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Well, the email is saved electronicly, if you use the provided
email functionality. Not sure about your other questions though.
Austin
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 19:01:20 -0500
From: Marvin <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Braille Display with NVDA
To: BN List <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi, all. Has anyone gotten their mPower to work with NVDA as a braille
display using either serial or bluetooth? I can't seem to get NVDA to load
my bn as a display. I got it to work with JAWS after I bought a usb to
serial port adapter cable and
hooked up the serial cable that came with my mPower to it, then connecting
that new "usb" cord to my computer and the bn. I got it to load as both a
braille display and a remote synthesizer.
I'm not so happy with the synthesizer, though. It occasionally spits out
something that says "y dieresis" or what sounds like "oo" as part of the
text, and for some reason it doesn't use my pronunciation dictionary. I
was really hoping to
occasionally use my bn as a synthesizer and have my pronunciation fixes
implemented thanks to my dictionary. Ah well. At least it switches
languages. I didn't expect it to do that for me. I was pleasantly
surprised.
Speaking of synthesizers, is it possible to get NVDA to see my bn as one?
I don't see it anywhere in the list. Thanks for any assistance.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:14:05 -0700
From: "Armando Maldonado" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] apex and jaws commands
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hello Members,
I'm trying to learn how I am able to operate the Apex with jaws and my
laptop. I find that the keyboard commands/shortcuts are very confusing
with
what both humanware and Freedomscientific has to offer. Is there any
tutorial that will explain to me as to how I can use the Apex with Jaws
13?
I am about to start school and would like to be able to use the apex to
both
control the laptop and read while I'm in classes. Thanks.
Armando
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 22:00:07 -0500
From: Marvin <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Keyboard Emulator in Terminal Mode
To: BN List <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi again, all. Has anyone figured out how to work the keyboard emulator
while using the bn as a braille display with JAWS? I've tried everything I
can think of, but no matter what keys I push while in emulator mode, Jaws
does nothing. The only keys
it seems to acknowledge are the thumb keys for moving the display. I even
tried seeing if keyboard help would react at first just to see if this
emulator mode even works. It just remains silent. Is there something
blindingly obvious I need to do
first to get this up and running? I like the existing command set that
Jaws has in place for letting the bn work with the computer, but it's
lacking quite a bit of functionality. I remember having a lot more
control with a Braille Lite 40 I had
while I was in middle school. That's why I tried emulation.
Any help would be, as always, greatly appreciated. Perhaps this should
go to the Jaws users list, but I'm not subscribed to it yet, and this is
sort of a bn issue.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 23:41:14 -0400
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] More Braille display issues; please help!!
To: Lucy Sirianni <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Have you tried a reset? What about exercising the display (options,
space-i, x)? Aside from that I can't think of anything, and it sounds like
you might have some hardware problems. I hate to say that, as I know how
hard it is to be separated from your bn, but you may have no choice. Of
course, call hw support first as a final resort before shipping the unit
off to the hospital.
On Aug 1, 2012, at 5:56 PM, Lucy Sirianni <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi all,
Yesterday, I posted about some issues I was having with my Braille
display; the problem has since gotten worse. Now, no text at all
displays in the first 24 cells of the display. I'm guessing this problem
may require sending the unit in, but is there anything at all I can try
before doing that? I would really appreciate any suggestions.
Apologies for any errors in typing; I'm not used to writing without
being able to use the Braille display to proofread.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Lucy
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 23:46:30 -0400
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] interesting question
To: Richard Fiorello <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Well, a macbook or iOS device paired with a braille display seems to be a
good solution for those solid in their braille skills. I only say that
because there are sometimes odd grade 2 translation problems you have to
know about and be ready to deal with, so those learning braille may not
want to do this. Still, I find myself using my bn only for wordprocessing,
the calculator, and the book reader, and the Braille Edge has those built
into it (and is $2700 for 40 cells). Pair that with a mainstream solution
and you have quite the team for getting things done.
On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Richard Fiorello <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi;
I have been considering the same question. For example I can purchase
the voice-note for approximately $2,000.00 If I add a 32 cell display
the price jumps to 6400 or approximately a 4400 charge for a 32 cell
display. Yet I can purchase a 40 cell display for 3,000 significantly
less. True the 40 cell display will be larger but somewhere about 1400
is getting lost. I was hoping one could purchase a voice-note and simply
connect a braille display when needed. Tech support tells me that's not
a possibility.
Also when I ran a few questions past them I was a bit disappointed in my
answers. For example, If someone sends me an email with a link to a site
in the message I can't just enter on the link I have to copy and paste.
Seems rather basic. Also the problem of flash hasn't been delta with.
On the other hand the newest greatest unit from hims is about the same
price and with the exception of my email issue has similar problems.
I took a look at the newest braille plus running on android which sounds
interesting but the price is about the same as the braille note with an
18 cell display and at least so far although you buy through aph if there
are any serious service issues it first goes back to aph and they in turn
send it to level star.
Bottom line is there isn't an ideal solution out there. If i was more
daring I'd just buy an i-pad or netbook.--
richard
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 00:19:31 -0700
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Keyboard Emulator in Terminal Mode
To: "'Marvin'" <[email protected]>, "'BN List'"
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi,
I'm sure you did this, but did you install the keyboard emulator or signed
BN driver on your computer? If you installed it, then under Task Manager,
a
program called "pdihooks.exe" should be running while in terminal mode.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marvin
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:00 PM
To: BN List
Subject: [Braillenote] Keyboard Emulator in Terminal Mode
Hi again, all. Has anyone figured out how to work the keyboard emulator
while using the bn as a braille display with JAWS? I've tried everything I
can think of, but no matter what keys I push while in emulator mode, Jaws
does nothing. The only keys it seems to acknowledge are the thumb keys
for
moving the display. I even tried seeing if keyboard help would react at
first just to see if this emulator mode even works. It just remains
silent.
Is there something blindingly obvious I need to do first to get this up
and
running? I like the existing command set that Jaws has in place for
letting
the bn work with the computer, but it's lacking quite a bit of
functionality. I remember having a lot more control with a Braille Lite
40
I had while I was in middle school. That's why I tried emulation.
Any help would be, as always, greatly appreciated. Perhaps this should
go
to the Jaws users list, but I'm not subscribed to it yet, and this is sort
of a bn issue.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 07:56:01 -0400
From: Lisa D Porter <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] saving files to Apex
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi all,
Am loving my Apex and am sure will love it even more once I'm online
with it. Having trouble there, but this message isn't about that. I had
mentioned a bit ago about having issues with the Apex seeing my thumb
drive. Well, that's solved as when I used a different one, it saw it
just fine, but when I tried to save a file from it to the Apex I wasn't
able to. Can this even be done and please tell me how if it can be?
Thanks.
Lisa
--
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e-mail: [email protected]
Home: 570-593-8682
Cell: 225-304-3350
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:30:28 -0700
From: Austin Diepenhorst <[email protected]>
Subject: re: [Braillenote] saving files to Apex
To: Lisa D Porter <[email protected]>,
[email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Ahh, very simple. Have you tried moving or copiing a file to the
flash disk? If you have, then I don't know of any other way you
could save a file to the apex.
cheers,
Austin
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 11:06:06 -0700
From: "Terri Pannett" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] interesting question
To: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]>, "Richard Fiorello"
<[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <86E91E9551014F72967A4AF725223FE6@Terri>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
As far as I know, the HumanWare braille display which is equivalent to the
BrailleEdge 40 in price, doesn't have any stand-alone notetaking features.
I
don't know how well it works with WindowEyes, but I know the Edge works
great. The only disadvantage is you must write in computer braille, but
you
can read in contracted braille. If you have Duxbury Braille translator on
your PC, then you could use that program to write contracted braille and
backtranslate to text.
Terri, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]>
To: "Richard Fiorello" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] interesting question
Well, a macbook or iOS device paired with a braille display seems to be a
good solution for those solid in their braille skills. I only say that
because there are sometimes odd grade 2 translation problems you have to
know about and be ready to deal with, so those learning braille may not
want
to do this. Still, I find myself using my bn only for wordprocessing, the
calculator, and the book reader, and the Braille Edge has those built into
it (and is $2700 for 40 cells). Pair that with a mainstream solution and
you
have quite the team for getting things done.
On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Richard Fiorello <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi;
I have been considering the same question. For example I can purchase
the
voice-note for approximately $2,000.00 If I add a 32 cell display the
price jumps to 6400 or approximately a 4400 charge for a 32 cell display.
Yet I can purchase a 40 cell display for 3,000 significantly less. True
the 40 cell display will be larger but somewhere about 1400 is getting
lost. I was hoping one could purchase a voice-note and simply connect a
braille display when needed. Tech support tells me that's not a
possibility.
Also when I ran a few questions past them I was a bit disappointed in my
answers. For example, If someone sends me an email with a link to a site
in the message I can't just enter on the link I have to copy and paste.
Seems rather basic. Also the problem of flash hasn't been delta with.
On the other hand the newest greatest unit from hims is about the same
price and with the exception of my email issue has similar problems.
I took a look at the newest braille plus running on android which sounds
interesting but the price is about the same as the braille note with an
18
cell display and at least so far although you buy through aph if there
are
any serious service issues it first goes back to aph and they in turn
send
it to level star.
Bottom line is there isn't an ideal solution out there. If i was more
daring I'd just buy an i-pad or netbook.--
richard
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:11:46 -0700
From: Grant Hardy <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Apex repairs
To: [email protected]
Message-ID:
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Hi all,
So I just sent my Apex in for some pretty major repairs. I got it
back, and now there's something else wrong - which wasn't
malfunctioning before sending it in. One of the keys on the keyboard
(the DOT 6 key) squeaks when you press it - it sounds as though it's
rubbing up against part of the internal casing or something like that.
I'm not really too keen to send it in once again, so is there anything
I should try before doing so? I've found instructions online for
cleaning "mainstream" computer keyboards, but they all involve prying
up the keys, cleaning with silicone spray, then reattaching the keys.
The keys on the Apex don't sound like the kind of things I should be
fiddling with by myself. What do you guys think?
Grant
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:31:07 -0700
From: Grant Hardy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Apex repairs
To: ww <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
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Yep, I called them and they said there's nothing to do but send it in
again. They also said they can't document the problem, so if I dont
send it in during my warranty period, then I'll be charged for the
repairs.
Grant
On 8/2/12, ww <[email protected]> wrote:
I think at this point you should call humanware and tell them about the
defective unit that they shipped to you and suggest that they hire new
technicians, since these don't seem to know how to do it right.
All the more reason for me not to send mine in to get the dot 5 issue
fixed. Yeah, that would be smart, huh. Lol
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