That email link does not work for the new email list.
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1. BrailleNote List Transition (Roanna Baccchus)
2. Re: BrailleNote List Transition (Rick Lewis)
3. RE: BrailleNote List Transition (Joseph Lee)
4. [email protected] (Tyler)
5. contacting gmail (Jessica Brown)
6. Re: [BNU] contacting gmail (Jessica Brown)
7. cookies (Jessica Brown)
8. Re: [BNU] cookies (Jessica Brown)
9. Re: [BNU] cookies (Jessica Brown)
10. charging apex (kelsey trevett)
11. List transition again: should we move to Freelists instead?
(Joseph Lee)
12. Re: List transition again: should we move to
Freelistsinstead? (Sharon S)
13. re: website (louisprem)
14. RE: List transition again: should we move to
Freelistsinstead? (Joseph Lee)
15. RE: List transition again: should we move toFreelistsinstead?
(kelsey trevett)
16. restoring sounds (kelsey trevett)
17. links to files (Ricardo Herrera)
18. RE: List transition again: should we movetoFreelistsinstead?
(Jessica Brown)
19. Re: List transition again: should we move toFreelistsinstead?
(Aidan Maher)
20. Iphone APEX question (frank M. Hernandez)
21. Re: Iphone APEX question (Alex Hall)
22. Paring a Braillenote with an IPhone or IPOd (Amy McGarrah)
23. Paring BrailleNote with IPhone (Amy McGarrah)
24. Re: Paring a Braillenote with an IPhone or IPOd (Alex Hall)
25. Transition vote results (Joseph Lee)
26. Freelists: list is ready (Joseph Lee)
27. Unsubscribing (Ellie Wallwork)
28. List info for BrailleNote list on Freelists (Joseph Lee)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:11:22 -0400
From: Roanna Baccchus <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] BrailleNote List Transition
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi everyone I have a question for you. Will I be added to the new BrailleNote
list automatically? Please let me know as soon as possible.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:15:28 -0700
From: "Rick Lewis" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] BrailleNote List Transition
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <ED9D06CEA1114C1489E16213869AD144@ownerdb17c0644>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Roanna,
No, you'll have to subscribe yourself to the new list.
--
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roanna Baccchus" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 5:11 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] BrailleNote List Transition
Hi everyone I have a question for you. Will I be added to the
new BrailleNote list automatically? Please let me know as soon as
possible.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:15:48 -0700
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] BrailleNote List Transition
To: "'Roanna Baccchus'" <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,
No - you need to send a subscription email. To subscribe, send a blank email
to:
[email protected]
After the message is sent, you should get a confirmation email.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roanna Baccchus
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] BrailleNote List Transition
Hi everyone I have a question for you. Will I be added to the new
BrailleNote list automatically? Please let me know as soon as possible.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:16:42 -0400
From: Tyler <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] [email protected]
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Message-ID: <20120904001641.9220.98008.levelstar.mail@everest>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
No! You won't be! To subscribe to the new list, do it right now, send a blank
(no subject)
email to
[email protected]
Tyler Z
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:11:22 -0400, Roanna Baccchus wrote:
>Hi everyone I have a question for you. Will I be added to the
>new BrailleNote list automatically? Please let me know as soon as
>possible.
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:27:32 -0700
From: Jessica Brown <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] contacting gmail
To: bn 1 <[email protected]>, bn 5 <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi. I tried to contact gmail to see if they could fix the problem
we are all having with signing in. I found a forum where people
can post questions, but since this is a very specific problem we
are having because of the equipment we are using to access gmail,
I was going to ask on the forum if there was a support email
address for gmail and then I was going to send an email to the
support address explaining the sign in problem and asking if they
could fix it. However, when I got to the forum, I was able to
read other people's posts but could not figure out how to post
something. I looked everywhere and could not find it. Maybe
someone else will have better luck then me. The link to the forum
is http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/gmail.
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:37:46 -0700
From: Jessica Brown <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Re: [BNU] contacting gmail
To: [email protected], bn 1 <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
I found a place to report technical issues. The link is
support.google.com/mail/bin/request.py?hl=en&contact_type=gtag.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Griego-Dreicer, Zachary N" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Date sent: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:33:50 -0600
Subject: Re: [BNU] contacting gmail
I would google search your query.
Sent from my Acer Aspire As5733
From: Jessica Brown
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 7:27 PM
To: bn 1 ; bn 5
Subject: [BNU] contacting gmail
Hi. I tried to contact gmail to see if they could fix the problem
we are all having with signing in. I found a forum where people
can post questions, but since this is a very specific problem we
are having because of the equipment we are using to access gmail,
I was going to ask on the forum if there was a support email
address for gmail and then I was going to send an email to the
support address explaining the sign in problem and asking if they
could fix it. However, when I got to the forum, I was able to
read other people's posts but could not figure out how to post
something. I looked everywhere and could not find it. Maybe
someone else will have better luck then me. The link to the forum
is http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/gmail.
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:23:52 -0700
From: Jessica Brown <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] cookies
To: bn 1 <[email protected]>, bn 5 <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Does anyone know where the Apex stores cookies? I know it is
somewhere on the ram or keysoft system disk, but where? What
folder or directory? Thank you.
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:30:07 -0700
From: Jessica Brown <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Re: [BNU] cookies
To: [email protected], bn 1 <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
No. The windows folder on the Apex keysoft system disk has no sub
directories. None of the folders on the keysoft system disk have
sub directories and I can't find the cookies anywhere.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tyler <[email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date sent: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:27:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [BNU] cookies
Once you manage to tap into the Keysoft system, I thought it was
the same as an Mpower, directory
/windows/profiles/guest/cookies
Tyler Z
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:23:52 -0700, Jessica Brown wrote:
Does anyone know where the Apex stores cookies? I know it is
somewhere on the ram or keysoft system disk, but where? What
folder or directory? Thank you.
------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:48:10 -0700
From: Jessica Brown <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Re: [BNU] cookies
To: [email protected], bn 1 <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Do you at least know what file extension cookies have so I know
what I am looking for? For example txt or doc? Thank you.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tyler <[email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date sent: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:39:00 -0400
Subject: Re: [BNU] cookies
Sorry! I don't speak Apexian!
Tyler Z
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:30:07 -0700, Jessica Brown wrote:
No. The windows folder on the Apex keysoft system disk has no sub
directories. None of the folders on the keysoft system disk have
sub directories and I can't find the cookies anywhere.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tyler <[email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date sent: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:27:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [BNU] cookies
Once you manage to tap into the Keysoft system, I thought it was
the same as an Mpower, directory
/windows/profiles/guest/cookies
Tyler Z
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:23:52 -0700, Jessica Brown wrote:
Does anyone know where the Apex stores cookies? I know it is
somewhere on the ram or keysoft system disk, but where? What
folder or directory? Thank you.
------------------------------
Message: 10
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 22:49:31 -0800
From: kelsey trevett <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] charging apex
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi,
I've got my Apex with 9,2,1 on it. For some reason, it won't
charge past 96 %. What should I do?
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 00:09:09 -0700
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move to
Freelists instead?
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi folks,
My sincere apologies on this matter...
Due to problems with Yahoo Groups, namely Yahoo ID requirement, no way to
manually add people and accessibility concerns with list archives, I'm
thinking we should switch to Freelists. I know, this is a short notice, but
since the list would be run by users and we want to keep the list format as
is (where people with computers or not can join us), I think we should move
on. I'd like to gather your opinion as soon as possible (likely before
Wednsday or Thursday) so we can have a smoother transition (I think Yahoo
Groups transition was not that smooth).
Benefits of freelists include more accessible archives, ability to add
people manually and more flexible group configuration. In short, this means
that anyone who requests to join the Freelists group can email the mods and
get added instantly. Also, Freelists allows creating webpages, which would
be useful for us to let people check archives and change email options.
Again my sincere apologies for this short notice and problems with Yahoo
Groups... Thanks for your considerations.
P.S. If we do decide to move to Freelists, those who are on the Yahoo Groups
will automatically get added to Freelists group (unless you say otherwise).
Cheers,
Joseph
------------------------------
Message: 12
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:27:55 +1000
From: "Sharon S" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move to
Freelistsinstead?
To: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <6071528E62D94594A1659B4F14934D00@SharonLaptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Joseph, I musc prefer freelists and I actually moderate a couple of list
over there and find it pretty easy to handle.
I say go for it! I have never liked yahoo groups and only join them if I
don't have a choice.
>From Shaz.
BN QT Apex and PK user.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:09 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move to
Freelistsinstead?
| Hi folks,
| My sincere apologies on this matter...
| Due to problems with Yahoo Groups, namely Yahoo ID requirement, no way to
| manually add people and accessibility concerns with list archives, I'm
| thinking we should switch to Freelists. I know, this is a short notice,
but
| since the list would be run by users and we want to keep the list format
as
| is (where people with computers or not can join us), I think we should
move
| on. I'd like to gather your opinion as soon as possible (likely before
| Wednsday or Thursday) so we can have a smoother transition (I think Yahoo
| Groups transition was not that smooth).
| Benefits of freelists include more accessible archives, ability to add
| people manually and more flexible group configuration. In short, this
means
| that anyone who requests to join the Freelists group can email the mods
and
| get added instantly. Also, Freelists allows creating webpages, which would
| be useful for us to let people check archives and change email options.
| Again my sincere apologies for this short notice and problems with Yahoo
| Groups... Thanks for your considerations.
| P.S. If we do decide to move to Freelists, those who are on the Yahoo
Groups
| will automatically get added to Freelists group (unless you say
otherwise).
| Cheers,
| Joseph
|
|
|
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| copy to the list as well.
|
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| [email protected]
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| http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
|
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:37:19 +0800
From: louisprem <[email protected]>
Subject: re: [Braillenote] website
To: Leilu Harrison-Talbot <[email protected]>, Braillenote
List Humanware australia <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi Leilu!
Nice to hear from you again. What model phone are you using? Did
you enjoy your stay in Auchland? Smile. Warm Regards,
J. Louis Prem
Blind Therapist
Mobile 019.3313117
References
www.energyflow7.blogspot.com
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 00:35:15 -0700
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move to
Freelistsinstead?
To: "'Sharon S'" <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi,
I see. One downside about Freelists is that you cannot remove a mailing
list, but I think that's something that wouldn't matter for now. Other than
that, Freelists mimics Mailman a lot in terms of functionality. My original
plan called for using Yahoo Groups for a while, then move onto another list
manager if problems arise (which did happen so soon); in the end, I and Alex
Hall envisioned running a user list on our site using our site's host, but
we hit email limit problem. Apparently there is a website host out there
which doesn't really care about number of emails on a list per hour, which
would have been our ideal host.
Thanks for your vote. I guess I'll wait for others to chime in.
P.S. Is list management on Freelists doable using KeyWeb?
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon S [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:28 AM
To: Joseph Lee; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move to
Freelistsinstead?
Hi Joseph, I musc prefer freelists and I actually moderate a couple of list
over there and find it pretty easy to handle.
I say go for it! I have never liked yahoo groups and only join them if I
don't have a choice.
>From Shaz.
BN QT Apex and PK user.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:09 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move to
Freelistsinstead?
| Hi folks,
| My sincere apologies on this matter...
| Due to problems with Yahoo Groups, namely Yahoo ID requirement, no way
| to manually add people and accessibility concerns with list archives,
| I'm thinking we should switch to Freelists. I know, this is a short
| notice,
but
| since the list would be run by users and we want to keep the list
| format
as
| is (where people with computers or not can join us), I think we should
move
| on. I'd like to gather your opinion as soon as possible (likely before
| Wednsday or Thursday) so we can have a smoother transition (I think
| Yahoo Groups transition was not that smooth).
| Benefits of freelists include more accessible archives, ability to add
| people manually and more flexible group configuration. In short, this
means
| that anyone who requests to join the Freelists group can email the
| mods
and
| get added instantly. Also, Freelists allows creating webpages, which
| would be useful for us to let people check archives and change email
options.
| Again my sincere apologies for this short notice and problems with
| Yahoo Groups... Thanks for your considerations.
| P.S. If we do decide to move to Freelists, those who are on the Yahoo
Groups
| will automatically get added to Freelists group (unless you say
otherwise).
| Cheers,
| Joseph
|
|
|
| ___
| Replies to this message will go directly to the sender.
| If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the
| list as well.
|
| To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
| [email protected]
| To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
| http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
|
------------------------------
Message: 15
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 00:42:11 -0800
From: kelsey trevett <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move
toFreelistsinstead?
To: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>, [email protected],
[email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
i agree. Free lists. Yahoo groups are not that great.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]
To: "'Sharon S'"
<[email protected]>,<[email protected]
Date sent: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 00:35:15 -0700
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move
toFreelistsinstead?
Hi,
I see. One downside about Freelists is that you cannot remove a
mailing
list, but I think that's something that wouldn't matter for now.
Other than
that, Freelists mimics Mailman a lot in terms of functionality.
My original
plan called for using Yahoo Groups for a while, then move onto
another list
manager if problems arise (which did happen so soon); in the end,
I and Alex
Hall envisioned running a user list on our site using our site's
host, but
we hit email limit problem. Apparently there is a website host
out there
which doesn't really care about number of emails on a list per
hour, which
would have been our ideal host.
Thanks for your vote. I guess I'll wait for others to chime in.
P.S. Is list management on Freelists doable using KeyWeb?
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon S [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:28 AM
To: Joseph Lee; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move
to
Freelistsinstead?
Hi Joseph, I musc prefer freelists and I actually moderate a
couple of list
over there and find it pretty easy to handle.
I say go for it! I have never liked yahoo groups and only join
them if I
don't have a choice.
>From Shaz.
BN QT Apex and PK user.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:09 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move to
Freelistsinstead?
| Hi folks,
| My sincere apologies on this matter...
| Due to problems with Yahoo Groups, namely Yahoo ID requirement,
no way
| to manually add people and accessibility concerns with list
archives,
| I'm thinking we should switch to Freelists. I know, this is a
short
| notice,
but
| since the list would be run by users and we want to keep the
list
| format
as
| is (where people with computers or not can join us), I think we
should
move
| on. I'd like to gather your opinion as soon as possible
(likely before
| Wednsday or Thursday) so we can have a smoother transition (I
think
| Yahoo Groups transition was not that smooth).
| Benefits of freelists include more accessible archives, ability
to add
| people manually and more flexible group configuration. In
short, this
means
| that anyone who requests to join the Freelists group can email
the
| mods
and
| get added instantly. Also, Freelists allows creating webpages,
which
| would be useful for us to let people check archives and change
email
options.
| Again my sincere apologies for this short notice and problems
with
| Yahoo Groups... Thanks for your considerations.
| P.S. If we do decide to move to Freelists, those who are on
the Yahoo
Groups
| will automatically get added to Freelists group (unless you say
otherwise).
| Cheers,
| Joseph
|
|
|
| ___
| Replies to this message will go directly to the sender.
| If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy
to the
| list as well.
|
| To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
| [email protected]
| To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
| http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
|
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 04:21:34 -0800
From: kelsey trevett <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] restoring sounds
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi,
I've got a sound pack on my Apex. However, I'd like to restore
the normal sounds. How is this done?
------------------------------
Message: 17
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 06:32:38 -0700
From: Ricardo Herrera <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] links to files
To: Humanware list <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hello,
Is there some way to create links to a file? For example, if I had a text file
or something in one folder, could I create an accessible shortcut or link to
that file in another folder? I have an apex 32 with a braille keyboard running
keysoft 9.1.1.
Thanks.
------------------------------
Message: 18
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 06:51:26 -0700
From: Jessica Brown <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we
movetoFreelistsinstead?
To: kelsey trevett <[email protected]>, [email protected],
[email protected], bn 1 <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
I say we should move.
----- Original Message -----
From: kelsey trevett <[email protected]
To: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>,
[email protected],[email protected]
Date sent: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 00:42:11 -0800
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we
movetoFreelistsinstead?
i agree. Free lists. Yahoo groups are not that great.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]
To: "'Sharon S'"
<[email protected]>,<[email protected]
Date sent: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 00:35:15 -0700
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move
toFreelistsinstead?
Hi,
I see. One downside about Freelists is that you cannot remove a
mailing
list, but I think that's something that wouldn't matter for now.
Other than
that, Freelists mimics Mailman a lot in terms of functionality.
My original
plan called for using Yahoo Groups for a while, then move onto
another list
manager if problems arise (which did happen so soon); in the end,
I and Alex
Hall envisioned running a user list on our site using our site's
host, but
we hit email limit problem. Apparently there is a website host
out there
which doesn't really care about number of emails on a list per
hour, which
would have been our ideal host.
Thanks for your vote. I guess I'll wait for others to chime in.
P.S. Is list management on Freelists doable using KeyWeb?
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon S [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:28 AM
To: Joseph Lee; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move
to
Freelistsinstead?
Hi Joseph, I musc prefer freelists and I actually moderate a
couple of list
over there and find it pretty easy to handle.
I say go for it! I have never liked yahoo groups and only join
them if I
don't have a choice.
>From Shaz.
BN QT Apex and PK user.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:09 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move to
Freelistsinstead?
| Hi folks,
| My sincere apologies on this matter...
| Due to problems with Yahoo Groups, namely Yahoo ID requirement,
no way
| to manually add people and accessibility concerns with list
archives,
| I'm thinking we should switch to Freelists. I know, this is a
short
| notice,
but
| since the list would be run by users and we want to keep the
list
| format
as
| is (where people with computers or not can join us), I think we
should
move
| on. I'd like to gather your opinion as soon as possible
(likely before
| Wednsday or Thursday) so we can have a smoother transition (I
think
| Yahoo Groups transition was not that smooth).
| Benefits of freelists include more accessible archives, ability
to add
| people manually and more flexible group configuration. In
short, this
means
| that anyone who requests to join the Freelists group can email
the
| mods
and
| get added instantly. Also, Freelists allows creating webpages,
which
| would be useful for us to let people check archives and change
email
options.
| Again my sincere apologies for this short notice and problems
with
| Yahoo Groups... Thanks for your considerations.
| P.S. If we do decide to move to Freelists, those who are on
the Yahoo
Groups
| will automatically get added to Freelists group (unless you say
otherwise).
| Cheers,
| Joseph
|
|
|
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:55:42 +0200
From: Aidan Maher <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move
toFreelistsinstead?
To: kelsey trevett <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
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Yes, I also want free lists. Why didn't you guys do your homework then
propperly then? Yahoo sucks and we should be able to continue on a
friendlyer form. Thanks for confusing us all. But I hope we could stay
at freelists.
On 04/09/2012, kelsey trevett <[email protected]> wrote:
> i agree. Free lists. Yahoo groups are not that great.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]
> To: "'Sharon S'"
> <[email protected]>,<[email protected]
> Date sent: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 00:35:15 -0700
> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move
> toFreelistsinstead?
>
> Hi,
> I see. One downside about Freelists is that you cannot remove a
> mailing
> list, but I think that's something that wouldn't matter for now.
> Other than
> that, Freelists mimics Mailman a lot in terms of functionality.
> My original
> plan called for using Yahoo Groups for a while, then move onto
> another list
> manager if problems arise (which did happen so soon); in the end,
> I and Alex
> Hall envisioned running a user list on our site using our site's
> host, but
> we hit email limit problem. Apparently there is a website host
> out there
> which doesn't really care about number of emails on a list per
> hour, which
> would have been our ideal host.
> Thanks for your vote. I guess I'll wait for others to chime in.
> P.S. Is list management on Freelists doable using KeyWeb?
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sharon S [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:28 AM
> To: Joseph Lee; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move
> to
> Freelistsinstead?
>
> Hi Joseph, I musc prefer freelists and I actually moderate a
> couple of list
> over there and find it pretty easy to handle.
>
> I say go for it! I have never liked yahoo groups and only join
> them if I
> don't have a choice.
>
> >From Shaz.
> BN QT Apex and PK user.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]
> To: <[email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:09 PM
> Subject: [Braillenote] List transition again: should we move to
> Freelistsinstead?
>
>
> | Hi folks,
> | My sincere apologies on this matter...
> | Due to problems with Yahoo Groups, namely Yahoo ID requirement,
> no way
> | to manually add people and accessibility concerns with list
> archives,
> | I'm thinking we should switch to Freelists. I know, this is a
> short
> | notice,
> but
> | since the list would be run by users and we want to keep the
> list
> | format
> as
> | is (where people with computers or not can join us), I think we
> should
> move
> | on. I'd like to gather your opinion as soon as possible
> (likely before
> | Wednsday or Thursday) so we can have a smoother transition (I
> think
> | Yahoo Groups transition was not that smooth).
> | Benefits of freelists include more accessible archives, ability
> to add
> | people manually and more flexible group configuration. In
> short, this
> means
> | that anyone who requests to join the Freelists group can email
> the
> | mods
> and
> | get added instantly. Also, Freelists allows creating webpages,
> which
> | would be useful for us to let people check archives and change
> email
> options.
> | Again my sincere apologies for this short notice and problems
> with
> | Yahoo Groups... Thanks for your considerations.
> | P.S. If we do decide to move to Freelists, those who are on
> the Yahoo
> Groups
> | will automatically get added to Freelists group (unless you say
> otherwise).
> | Cheers,
> | Joseph
> |
> |
> |
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 10:52:35 -0700
From: "frank M. Hernandez" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Iphone APEX question
To: Bn List <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <15.02.08814.FFF36405@cm-omr10>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Dear List,
If I want to copy and paste some text from a APEX file into a
text I'm sending with my Iphone, how would I go about doing that?
I'm learning how to use the APEX and the Iphone together. I
don't understand the commands yet.
Thanks for any help,
Frank M. Hernandez.
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:05:31 -0400
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Iphone APEX question
To: "frank M. Hernandez" <[email protected]>
Cc: Bn List <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
You can't. Only text entered into the braille terminal will be transmitted to
the iPhone, so there is no way to paste a chunk and have it sent over. Sorry.
As a side note, other displays can do this, specifically the Braille Edge from
Hims, if memory serves. Definitely a feature hw should look into adding.
On Sep 4, 2012, at 1:52 PM, "frank M. Hernandez"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> If I want to copy and paste some text from a APEX file into a text I'm
> sending with my Iphone, how would I go about doing that?
>
> I'm learning how to use the APEX and the Iphone together. I don't understand
> the commands yet.
> Thanks for any help,
> Frank M. Hernandez.
>
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Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:15:25 -0400
From: Amy McGarrah <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Paring a Braillenote with an IPhone or IPOd
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: [email protected]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
Hello list,
could someone please send me the steps for paring the Braillenote with
an IPhone or IPod?
Thanks,
Amy
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:31:41 -0400
From: Amy McGarrah <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Paring BrailleNote with IPhone
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: [email protected]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
Hello everyone,
I"ve found the proper place and prompts but The IPhone is asking for a
pin number. Is there something specific that needs to go into that
field? Also when the BN finds the IPhone there are a list of three
things for services that come up. They are:
hands-free
printer
serial.
Which one should I select, if any of them?
Amy
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:34:06 -0400
From: Alex Hall <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Paring a Braillenote with an IPhone or IPOd
To: Amy McGarrah <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Have a listen to my podcasts on this. You can find everything at
http://www.braillenoteusers.info/media. You may also find it helpful to go to
http://www.applevis.com and search for ios primers, then select the braille
primer.
On Sep 4, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Amy McGarrah <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello list,
> could someone please send me the steps for paring the Braillenote with an
> IPhone or IPod?
> Thanks,
> Amy
>
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Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
[email protected]
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 12:26:53 -0700
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Transition vote results
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi,
Since there are so many votes in favor of list transition to Freelists, it
was decided (for now) to move the Yahoo Groups list to Freelists. Luckily
for us, there is already a BrailleNote list made by Jose Lomeli; however,
due to inactivity and no mods, I contacted Freelists staff to change to mod
email address to mine.
As for sudden change of list managers, we first thought Yahoo Groups would
be a good one since many well-known blindness organizations uses it.
However, it was discovered that we had a number of people with subscription
difficulties, concerns were raised about inaccessibility of archives and
sign up process and other features that the admins needed were not there.
Also, I thought that it was safe to make another move since this (HW) list
would not be going away for the next three weeks, so it was a good
opportunity to find a better list manager than Yahoo (we were planning to
use Yahoo for a while, but the problems snowballed so soon).
Once the new Freelists list is running (as I need to update whole bunch of
info), I'll send subscription and other info to this list. Also, as a
courtesy gesture, those who are on the Yahoo Groups will automatically be
moved to Freelists unless you say otherwise. Again my apologies for this
mess.
Cheers,
Joseph
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Message: 26
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 13:39:30 -0700
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Freelists: list is ready
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi folks,
Our new Freelists, replacing Yahoo Groups is now ready.
To join, send an email to:
[email protected]
With "subscribe" (without quotes) as subject line. Or, you can go to:
www.freelists.org/list/braillenote
Enter your email address and select subscribe.
For those who are on the Yahoo Groups list, you'll be added directly to
Freelists by end of today. The Yahoo Groups will be shutdown later today as
well. Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph
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Message: 27
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 21:52:01 +0100
From: Ellie Wallwork <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] Unsubscribing
To: Braillenote List <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Hello to everyone on this list
As of today, I have decided to unsubscribe from the list. It is
simply because, as I have schoolwork to attend to, I will not
have time to receive all the emails I get from here. I am not
going to subscribe to the other one, for the same reason.
This list has been a great help to me for the short time I have
been on it, and I thank people for their suggestions and support.
I know more about the braillenote than I did before I joined
here.
Thank you again, sincerely, for all your help,
Ellie
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Message: 28
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:19:28 -0700
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Braillenote] List info for BrailleNote list on Freelists
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi folks,
You can now join the BrailleNote list on Freelists. To join, send an email
to:
[email protected]
Put "subscribe" (without quotes) as the subject. Then you'll get a
confirmation message - just reply to the message and you'll be added. If the
confirmation fails and you wish to be part of Freelists list, please send an
email to [email protected] and we'll subscribe you
manually.
Also, we do have list homepage:
www.freelists.org/list/braillenote
>From this page, you can subscribe or unsubscribe, change email delivery
options and view list archives.
As for list mods, it was decided that I and Alex Hall would be admins for
now. See ya at Freelists.
Cheers,
Joseph
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