Can you use the Ada to help?
Are you in the us or elsewhere?

Richard

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>From: "kim lookingbill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "'Braillenote List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 14:13:22 -0500
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] loaner pool

>Hi: - I wouldn't even dare ask my employer for a braille note, although
>I really would, and could use one at work, I had enough problems just
>asking for them to spend money on a $300 adaptive product, where I had
>to write a memo of reasonable usage explanation for the expense, let
>alone, try and ask them to spend a little over $5,000 for an adaptive
>product that probably could really serve me well in my daily work
>routines.  So you see some employers are not so understanding.  All the
>best.  - Kim


>Kim Lookingbill
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>Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 11:58 AM
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>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] loaner pool


>It is a shame that the same standard dos not apply to the sighted
>employees, who can cost a great deal more than we do.

>Gary

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andy Baracco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 1:19 AM
>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] loaner pool


>> Hi Lisa E.

>> If that were the case, no blind person would ever get hired.
>> Employers don't hire blind people as it is because they fear the
>> expense.  If a
>blind
>> employer needed a screen reader, scanner with OCR, and note taker with

>> Braille display, and they had to buy two of each, I can pretty much
>> state with authority that very, very few blind people would be hired,
>> except, perhaps by the Federal Government.

>> Andy

>> At 03:16 PM 4/11/04 +1000, you wrote:
>>>Hi Listers,
>>>Lisa  has a good point about whose users who are deafblind.  My next
>> question would be aren't employers supposed to be responsible for
>providing
>> accomodations for people who are blind or deafblind or regardless of
>> the disability?  Employers need to understand how important how vital
>> technology is to people who are blind or visually impaired.  In my
>> opinion employers need to provide two pieces of technology in case one

>> devices breaks down.  If they'd think about it they'd realize there
>> other
>employees
>> have different ways of communicating they can write  handwritten
>> notes, my can email something to the boss, they have different ways of
>communicating.
>>  Why should the blind or visually impaired person be reduced to only
>> one way of communicating written language?  I know I'm a big baby out
>> here in the tropics where getting technology for my job wasn't a
>> problem since my boss who is blind is in charge of the program where I

>> work and we work
>with
>> kids who are blind.  So having to f!
>>> ight for accommodations was not an issue for me.  I just think
>>> employers
>> and employees need to sit down and come up with strategies to address
>> how the employee will handle the job if the technology is in need of
>> repair or something.  It should not have to be the employee's
>> responsibility to figure out how he/she will survive without having
>> the Braillenote.  I
>think
>> often employers think if I buy this one device for thousands of
>> dollars I will have accommodated this person.  They don't stop to
>> think that people who are blind can communicate in other ways through
>> writing without just using one piece of technology.  It would be nice
>> if PDI would establish a loaner program but in the meantime
>> Braillenote users and employers and state agencies and schools
>> everyone need to seriously think about how and what they will do when
>> the piece of technology isn't working.  I think
>this
>> needs to be addressed before the device is even purchased.  I didn't
>> mean to get off topic here I just w!
>>> ant to encourage people to think and it shouldn't be just us the
>>>Brail lenote users and the PDI staff having to think about this
>>>problem.  It
>> would be nice if everyone could work together on this problem to help
>> form a solution.
>>>Thanks for reading.  I'm not trying to start any major discussions or
>> anything I just wanted to share my thoughts.
>>>Lisa


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